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Enthusiast II
March 31, 2025
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Update to 80.18.23 which may include playlist editing??

  • March 31, 2025
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I note the latest Android / IOS App  includes Playlist editing with the caveat:-

 

80.18.23 (Android)

80.18.25 (iOS)

Release date: 31/03/2025

In this update:

  • Ability to create and edit Sonos playlists
    • Gradual rollout: This feature will be available to all users over time

 

Having installed this I don’t see any playlist editing features so my question is:

 

What is the timeline for making this feature available to all?   

and will it require another update to activate it ? 

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi @sjw

We can use Optimizely to enable or disable certain UI elements at will without the need for an update. My assumption (from the fact that I installed both app and player updates and yet still don’t see Playlist options) is that this is what is happening with this particular feature roll-out.

I hope this helps.

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Prodigy III
March 31, 2025

I note the latest Android / IOS App  includes Playlist editing with the caveat:-

 

80.18.23 (Android)

80.18.25 (iOS)

Release date: 31/03/2025

In this update:

  • Ability to create and edit Sonos playlists
    • Gradual rollout: This feature will be available to all users over time

 

Having installed this I don’t see any playlist editing features so my question is:

 

What is the timeline for making this feature available to all?   

and will it require another update to activate it ? 

 

You need to update the app AND the system.

I’m on iOS and had to wait just a couple of hours. 

I suspect users on Android will probably wait a bit longer for it to be fully rolled out as is the case with many Android apps because of the huge variation in handsets and tablets.

EditorAuthor
Enthusiast II
March 31, 2025

Yes, both the app and the os on each device were updated to the latest versions as per the latest release notes and yet there is no playlist editing feature presented in the app hence my questions above.

Airgetlam
March 31, 2025

Perhaps the 

  • Gradual rollout: This feature will be available to all users over time

may be pertinent? 

Bruce
Prodigy III
March 31, 2025

Yes, both the app and the os on each device were updated to the latest versions as per the latest release notes and yet there is no playlist editing feature presented in the app hence my questions above.

Go into Sonos Favourites then Playlists, then tap on a Sonos Playlist that you have created. Tap the three dots and under the menu that appears will be Edit Sonos Playlist. 

Airgetlam
April 1, 2025

Note the information here:

 

Bruce
EditorAuthor
Enthusiast II
April 1, 2025

Perhaps the 

  • Gradual rollout: This feature will be available to all users over time

may be pertinent? 

yes, agreed it is and that’s why I was asking my original questions about timescales…..

 

It seems that some others with the identical OS and App versions as I have report seeing the playlist editing feature whilst I do not and this I find very disconcerting as it means that Sonos have control from the cloud over the functions any individual can see and they can turn features on and off at will.

That is a very worrying scenario don’t you think?.

 

jgatie
April 1, 2025

Perhaps the 

  • Gradual rollout: This feature will be available to all users over time

may be pertinent? 

yes, agreed it is and that’s why I was asking my original questions about timescales…..

 

It seems that others with the same OS and App versions report seeing the playlist editing feature and this I find very disconcerting as it means that Sonos have control from the cloud over the functions any individual can see and they can turn features off an on at will.

That is a very worrying scenario don’t you think?.

 

 

A staged rollout is not what you describe.  The simple fact is, the servers used to distribute an update are not populated all at the same time, but that’s a Google/Android/Apple thing, nothing to do with Sonos.  Sonos has no ability to say “Fred gets version X, but Ethel gets version Y, and Lucy is stuck on version Z”.  Unless you are signed up for Beta, you get the version everyone else does. 

Smilja
April 1, 2025

That is a very worrying scenario don’t you think?

 

Sonos can turn features off an on as they see fit.

EULA for Sonos Users | Sonos

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jgatie
April 1, 2025

That is a very worrying scenario don’t you think?

 

Sonos can turn features off an on as they see fit.

EULA for Sonos Users | Sonos

 

That’s for all users.  The poster seems to think they can specify functionality at the user level.  Which is silly, both for the complexity of the task, and the thought that Sonos actually cares about something like that. 

EditorAuthor
Enthusiast II
April 1, 2025

 

 

 

A staged rollout is not what you describe.  The simple fact is, the servers used to distribute an update are not populated all at the same time, but that’s a Google/Android/Apple thing, nothing to do with Sonos.  Sonos has no ability to say “Fred gets version X, but Ethel gets version Y, and Lucy is stuck on version Z”.

 

 

ok, but as per my original question

I do have the latest Android App version that claims to have the feature and I do have the latest OS on the devices so could you explain in your scenario why the feature doesn’t appear yet?