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May 18, 2024
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App update broke the system- Tech supported admitted the features are broken

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After 2 hour wait finally got tech support.  The Support Rep was very unclear and confused as if the things broken, were coming across as new bug reports. Sonos product team decided they will use customers for bug testing rather than releasing their own tested product.  I have 5 Play 1s, 1 Play 3, 1 Play 5, 1 Move2, 1 bridge, 1 SUB and 1 AMP.  The Play 5 and 2 Play 1’s are used with the AMP and SUB for surround sound system.  Here are my major issues. 

 

  1. App update broke EVERYTHING.  Had to do a complete reset and reinstall. After I got over the anger, was able to add all the speakers bad.  
  2. iOS- trying to GROUP the AMP with the PLAY 5 and 2 PLAY 1s to do surround with TV DOES NOT work.  But the MAC app allows that, so i’m able to watch TV but i have to use MAC to control everything. iOS app is useless. I tested Android app with android phone, and that app works fine.  Also, when i choose “TV” input while trying to group the AMP with any speaker, the app doesn’t allow that.  But i can choose TV input using MAC app.  So basically iOS is screwed up.  That product person couldn’t make the deadlines before release. Tech support rep tried fixing and then finally admitted it’s a problem.
  3. I had 2 Play 1s added as “surround speakers” to the AMP before the App and system broke. Now, i have to group them, before they were automatically part of the AMP surround speakers. I tried to redo this configuration by “removing surround speakers” from AMP and then re-add them, but the “remove surround speaker” feature doesn’t work- again, tech support said they know this feature is missing and wait for next release.  What a terrible product release.
  4. 1 had subwoofer added to AMP.  SUB also shows that it is still connected to AMP but not working.  And i can’t remove/re-add etc until next product release.  So i’ll be enjoying movies without the base. Thanks Sonos. You are terrible.
  5. Cannot add music library to the app.  They only want you to stream music.  Say goodbye to the music library on your computer.

Oh not to mention, tech rep got so frustrated that all these things weren’t working after 1 hr 15 min with me on the phone, she just shut down and said just wait for the next app release, i can’t do anything more and hung up.  Welcome to $5K+ spent on Sonos products where they think they are trying to ‘make it easy’ for the people, but instead break everything that was working. Worst quality control of any product i’ve ever seen released. This won’t even qualify as an alpha release.

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Best answer by Andrey P

 

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Prominent Collaborator II
May 18, 2024

What you describe is really the world we live in.  All the tech companies are so insecure about their products, they feel they need to keep ``improving it``to keep up with others.  Kind of like lowes moving in next door to home depot.  WHY?

The original version of sonos was great.  I once installed a 5 amp and 2 playbar system, added a library, and  left the customer to play for the night.  When I arrived back the next day to teach her how to use it,  she was listening to elvis across the whole house.  She was 80 years old.

I install for a living,  and Sonos was a revelation.  

Now,  there isnt a single installation that goes the same or operates exactly how it should.  The network procedure is * up.  The ridiculous PIN no idea is laughable.  You need a magnifying glass to read them. WHY?

This update is a such disaster,  I wonder if they have been hacked by one of the other companies.  There is no other explanation.

I probably have installed $200k worth,  not kidding.  One can only hope they turn back the clock real click.  My phone has been ringing off the hook today for clients complaining, and needing help.

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akg3333Author
Contributor I
May 18, 2024

What you describe is really the world we live in.  All the tech companies are so insecure about their products, they feel they need to keep ``improving it``to keep up with others.  Kind of like lowes moving in next door to home depot.  WHY?

The original version of sonos was great.  I once installed a 5 amp and 2 playbar system, added a library, and  left the customer to play for the night.  When I arrived back the next day to teach her how to use it,  she was listening to elvis across the whole house.  She was 80 years old.

I install for a living,  and Sonos was a revelation.  

Now,  there isnt a single installation that goes the same or operates exactly how it should.  The network procedure is * up.  The ridiculous PIN no idea is laughable.  You need a magnifying glass to read them. WHY?

This update is a such disaster,  I wonder if they have been hacked by one of the other companies.  There is no other explanation.

I probably have installed $200k worth,  not kidding.  One can only hope they turn back the clock real click.  My phone has been ringing off the hook today for clients complaining, and needing help.

*Moderator Note: Modified in accordance with the Community Code of Conduct.*

 

 

Since you’re in the business of installing these things, what systems do you know that are like Sonos  and recommended?  I’ve had enough of downhill ride with Sonos and the extremely difficult way they allow management of speakers, whether for TV to music.  I’ve been there with Sonos when it was first introduced and my brother in law was even CFO of Sonos.  Not the same company anymore. Any recommendations? So i can sell this unusable system. 

May 18, 2024

Consider Heos. I’ve just added 3 Denon products, Playbar550, Speaker 350 and Home Sub. Waiting on 2nd 350 to create surrounds.  The Heos app goes far above and beyond the SONOS crAPP which has been failing me the 5 years I’ve had my units (Playbar, Play1s, Sub, Play5 and Roam).  I’ve disconnected the Playbar, 1’s and Sub…. they are going out the door.  Keeping the Play5 in my bedroom now… initially it was to drive my turntable, and bridge it to the other pieces…. Denon & Heos has made that incredibly easier now [for me].  Not saying there weren’t bumps to start, or to come but, a completely better, frustration free, scenario.  On top of that, Denon was immediate to respond, and the rep who helped via email, actually phoned me, unsolicited from California to discuss and help resolve minor hiccup (which was an issue of misunderstanding on my part of linking Sub to Playbar and my WIFI SSID).  *Bear in mind I have no choice but to use a WIFI network as the router is upstairs in my landlords part of the house, and not about to ask him to send wires down here… enuf for him to deal with with 3 kids.  He & the family have been too good to me since I’ve moved here, in may ways. 

The Play5 and Roam are the only units I’ll keep. That much I was able to get sorted on a new account after transferring ownership over… which created another nightmare on my original account but, meh, those items registered to that account are headed out of here eventually.  They’re disconnected and sitting in front of my new soundbar… looking embarrassed and ashamed for the parent company that has seeded them and now  rendered them orphans, all because SONOS DEVELOPERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CREATE A WELL FUNCTIONING APP TO CONTROL THE SYSTEM, OR THEY JUST DON’T CARE BECAUSE SONOS IS PROBABLY  HEADING TO BE A PAY FOR STREAMING A SERVICE OF THEIR OWN.   The Heos app gives my full access to my HUGE library of my own music. I don’t use pay for streaming services;  TuneIn and Soundcloud in their basic form is sufficient outside my own collection nearing 95,000.

Bottom line… good hardware from sonos… bad company, practices and above all utter lack of respect for clients as far as the horrendous crAPP they’ve produced and continue to do nothing about to remedy over the 5 years I’ve been constantly frustrated and had to fuss with to listen to an LP.  Moving on in part for complete disgust of their greed. 

PS, the topic of your post hits it best.. it’s not about particular features of an app, it’s about integrity and functionality of the hardware, driven solely by their app. 

akg3333Author
Contributor I
May 18, 2024

Consider Heos. I’ve just added 3 Denon products, Playbar550, Speaker 350 and Home Sub. Waiting on 2nd 350 to create surrounds.  The Heos app goes far above and beyond the SONOS crAPP which has been failing me the 5 years I’ve had my units (Playbar, Play1s, Sub, Play5 and Roam).  I’ve disconnected the Playbar, 1’s and Sub…. they are going out the door.  Keeping the Play5 in my bedroom now… initially it was to drive my turntable, and bridge it to the other pieces…. Denon & Heos has made that incredibly easier now [for me].  Not saying there weren’t bumps to start, or to come but, a completely better, frustration free, scenario.  On top of that, Denon was immediate to respond, and the rep who helped via email, actually phoned me, unsolicited from California to discuss and help resolve minor hiccup (which was an issue of misunderstanding on my part of linking Sub to Playbar and my WIFI SSID).  *Bear in mind I have no choice but to use a WIFI network as the router is upstairs in my landlords part of the house, and not about to ask him to send wires down here… enuf for him to deal with with 3 kids.  He & the family have been too good to me since I’ve moved here, in may ways. 

The Play5 and Roam are the only units I’ll keep. That much I was able to get sorted on a new account after transferring ownership over… which created another nightmare on my original account but, meh, those items registered to that account are headed out of here eventually.  They’re disconnected and sitting in front of my new soundbar… looking embarrassed and ashamed for the parent company that has seeded them and now  rendered them orphans, all because SONOS DEVELOPERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CREATE A WELL FUNCTIONING APP TO CONTROL THE SYSTEM, OR THEY JUST DON’T CARE BECAUSE SONOS IS PROBABLY  HEADING TO BE A PAY FOR STREAMING A SERVICE OF THEIR OWN.   The Heos app gives my full access to my HUGE library of my own music. I don’t use pay for streaming services;  TuneIn and Soundcloud in their basic form is sufficient outside my own collection nearing 95,000.

Bottom line… good hardware from sonos… bad company, practices and above all utter lack of respect for clients as far as the horrendous crAPP they’ve produced and continue to do nothing about to remedy over the 5 years I’ve been constantly frustrated and had to fuss with to listen to an LP.  Moving on in part for complete disgust of their greed. 

Thanks, didn’t know about the HEOS app. Knew about Denon but seems they now have a good competitive product to SONOS.  I was looking at AUDIO PRO multihome speakers too.  The >$5k i invested in Sonos bc i thought i couldn’t get away from them. But now so anymore. 

Lyricist I
May 18, 2024

SONOS is now the talk of NY Times! Congrats! (ouch)

akg3333Author
Contributor I
May 18, 2024

SONOS is now the talk of NY Times! Congrats! (ouch)

An article out on this debacle of an app? I can’t find it.

Andrey PAnswer
Contributor II
May 18, 2024

 

May 18, 2024

…. and thank you too @akg3333 for giving me voice here too.  aka, kind of rant.  Still learning the ins and outs of the Heos app (the fact that Marantz and other notable companies  produce product using it alone should give one reason to consider) , and considering I’m still not fully set up as it was in my Sonos world but, the calm it’s been bringing is appreciated.  No question of doubt the Sonos hardware sound fantastic -- but,  now there are many other options.  I’ll probably have to eventually disappear from this profile when I close this account, and pick up on the other account for the units I’ll keep  -- so perhaps  hairy_chacha will see you again on the other side.  Happy listening until. 

May 18, 2024

 

thanks for sharing.  It’s becoming more obvious that accountability and transparency are not high on the Sonos top tier or vested leadership’s  list of strong points.

Ted the wonder dog
Trending Lyricist I
May 18, 2024

Heos sounds interesting, I’ve totally lost all faith in Sonos.

I just want play my iTunes library around the house