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August 13, 2018

Wi-Fi emissions

  • August 13, 2018
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Can you make your Sonos have no Wi-Fi signal at all?
My step had has been reading that Wi-FI and EMF are bad for you. so I’m not allowed to buy anything that as a Wi-Fi Signal. Any suggestion?
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    anhmantran
    Trending Lyricist I
    June 26, 2019

    When I map the wifi signal on my unifi system, the signal strength of the sonos speakers are way too high for where they areOn the basis of multiple tests, under entirely controlled conditions, as is required for certification by the regulatory authorities? I'm sure I don't need to point out the effects of reflection, attenuation and the inverse square law...


    yes... All the data is consistent between the spectrum scanner, the RF meter and the unifi controller report

    I was just reading my unifi controller data:

    My Harmony sitting right on top of my sonos 1 on the same AP reads: 77dBm when the sonos reads 33dBm as an example. A whopping 44dbm difference which represents over 10W of transmission power.
    All these instruments are FCC certified.
    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    June 26, 2019

    All these instruments are FCC certified.


    If you feel that your SONOS system is emitting 10W in the WiFi band, have your unit tested by a certified laboratory and report this immediately to the FCC.

    With respect to your dBm figures, I think that you are missing a sign. The "77dBm" and "33dBm" should be "-77dbm" and "-33dBm" respectively. I expect that these are the received signal level as indicated by your Ubiquiti access point. In any case +77dBm would be a significant power level. Also, the antennas on the devices are likely somewhat directional, depending on their "gain". If you are taking your field measurements at a single point, you could easily be on a beam axis for one device and off axis for another -- depending on the box's orientation with respect to your observation point.
    Lyricist I
    October 7, 2019


    When I map the wifi signal on my unifi system, the signal strength of the sonos speakers are way too high for where they areOn the basis of multiple tests, under entirely controlled conditions, as is required for certification by the regulatory authorities? I'm sure I don't need to point out the effects of reflection, attenuation and the inverse square law...
    yes... All the data is consistent between the spectrum scanner, the RF meter and the unifi controller report

    I was just reading my unifi controller data:

    My Harmony sitting right on top of my sonos 1 on the same AP reads: 77dBm when the sonos reads 33dBm as an example. A whopping 44dbm difference which represents over 10W of transmission power.
    All these instruments are FCC certified.


    I use my EMF meter today for something else today, scanned my home. I accidentally found all my rooms with sonos device have high readings. So I put the meter close to the device and boom, 20X than average reading through the house with turning all my Sonos off. I don't care much about the RF but 20X??? that's too much.

    So I started to google about Sonos radiation and found I'm not along. LOL.

    I am addicted to Sonos. So I added a smart plug to all my Sonos device. I'm not going to power them on if not I am not using them.

    Anyway, I'm so surprised about this finding. BTW, I'm holding an electrical engineering Ph.D.
    Airgetlam
    October 7, 2019
    Why don't you wire them all with ethernet, and turn off the radios on them all? Except for speakers that are "bonded", such as the soundbars, the SUB, and surrounds, there's no reason for you to have the radios on, if you're significantly concerned.
    Bruce
    Lyricist I
    October 7, 2019
    Why don't you wire them all with ethernet, and turn off the radios on them all? Except for speakers that are "bonded", such as the soundbars, the SUB, and surrounds, there's no reason for you to have the radios on, if you're significantly concerned.

    I'm not concerned much actually:) I have two beams and two connect:amp and several play1s. I also have some used smart plugs sitting in the tool cabinet. I have so many wifi devices and Z-wave or Zigbee smart home devices running 24x7. I'm not sensitive to radiation at all.

    But Sonos seems emit too much RF. So I will give them each a smart plug and power them on if needed:) I'm very curious why though. Will do more research.
    Airgetlam
    October 7, 2019
    I'd be interested in what you find out....and if it's a variable amount. I'd think it would be different when they're "active" versus in a low power state. But that's an assumption based on nothing.
    Bruce
    ratty
    October 7, 2019
    The amount of RF emissions depends on the volume of data traffic. For an idle system this is tiny.
    Lyricist I
    October 7, 2019
    The amount of RF emissions depends on the volume of data traffic. For an idle system this is tiny.
    Actually, I measured everything with the speaker idled but connected, didn't test the RF with music on.

    I'd be interested in what you find out....and if it's a variable amount. I'd think it would be different when they're "active" versus in a low power state. But that's an assumption based on nothing.
    The measures are quite similar to the measures who raise the issue.

    After reading more, I think the RF sensitive population already got sonos on their list.
    eg:
    https://www.emfanalysis.com/top-10-solutions/
    Lyricist I
    October 7, 2019
    Sometimes people need to condense their overall anxieties and direct them towards an easily defined entity. Vaccinations, anyone?
    That's ironic. Low energy/hypothyroid people need to stay in their bubble, follow the pack and not have their lifestyle and belief system challenged because its very stressful when you're in that state.
    Lyricist I
    December 5, 2019

    Mercury used  to be medicine. Leaky Gut was a hoax. Hand washing used to be unnecessary. Germs used to be imaginary. Smoking used to be safe, and leaded gasoline was once safe as well. 

    Just because we don’t understand something does not mean there is no risk. Each of us can look at just the people in our own lives and understand that we are all affected differently by life. Just because a thing, anything, is not a problem for you does not mean it’s not a problem for someone else. If you are fortunate enough to be completely healthy, great. With that in mind, disdain for people who are not healthy is sad, and woefully ignorant. Our species seems to be very short on compassion and slaves to our own world views.