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Contributor II
July 18, 2020
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Why can't I group two rooms?

  • July 18, 2020
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Why can’t I create a speaker group containing two rooms in the S2 app? The group option is greyed out and it says I can only create groups when three or more rooms exist. Why does this distinction exist?

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Best answer by 106rallye

@conorb I do not understand what you are saying. What problem do you encounter, that you see needing a “work around” or a fix? Do you have two rooms or more?

Grouping rooms if you only have two rooms can be done by using the button I've circled in the screenshot below:

This is not a work around -  it's the way grouping has always worked. If you have more rooms you can use this method, or (new for S2) make named groups. I would agree calling this feature “Groups” instead of "Named Groups” is confusing - especially if you staate that the feature does not work if you only have two rooms, so people conclude they can't group two roosm at all.

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jgatie
July 18, 2020

Because you already have a default speaker group containing your two rooms.  It’s called “Everywhere”.

nevermoreAuthor
Contributor II
July 18, 2020

How do I access that from a convenient button? When I’m playing music on Spotify, either using the Spotify app, or using a voice command to Google Assistant, I then have to manually go into the Sonos app to play it in the other room too. 

jgatie
July 18, 2020

Creating a speaker group doesn’t mean you can access it via Google or Spotify.  It’s simply a quick way to group things like “Upstairs” or “Downstairs” without having to individually click on each room.  You still need to go to the Sonos app and click the Group button.  Once you do that, your saved groups are at the top of the grouping screen.  

nevermoreAuthor
Contributor II
July 18, 2020

So where is the Everywhere group, please?

Airgetlam
July 18, 2020

I believe (but can’t personally confirm) that the ‘everywhere’ group only appears if you have more than two rooms in your system. If you only have two rooms, I believe you only have the option to select the two rooms. 

Bruce
jgatie
July 18, 2020

Not having only 2 rooms, I wasn’t aware of the Everywhere room not appearing for systems with only 2 rooms. 

It wouldn’t save any clicks anyway, there’s no difference between hitting the “Everywhere” button and checking the 2nd room, both are a single click.  And the only reason for saved groups is to save clicks.

Airgetlam
July 18, 2020

Yea, I’ve got the same problem, too many rooms. But thought perhaps that might be why the OP couldn’t find the ‘everywhere’ selection. 

Bruce
nevermoreAuthor
Contributor II
July 18, 2020

It sounds like I need to wait for the Google integration to catch up to the Alexa integration, and allow groups of Sonos speakers

jgatie
July 18, 2020

It sounds like I need to wait for the Google integration to catch up to the Alexa integration, and allow groups of Sonos speakers

 

Even that isn’t great.  Alexa allows you to initiate play to a group, but there is no on-the-fly grouping and ungrouping of rooms like Sonos is able to do.  If you want to change music from one room/group to another with Alexa, the music has to stop, then restart, and it doesn’t restart where it left off.  

Lyricist I
July 18, 2020

Hi,

I was just about to post on same subject - I am in the same position as OP and am feeling mystified by it as I’ve not knowingly changed anything. It seems to be a new development, and to be interfering with my ability to play off AirPlay, as my old Play:1 has dropped off the AirPlay group and I can’t figure out how to pair it back up again. Very frustrated as I obviously need the piggybacking from my Play:One to make AirPlay work on the older speaker, and it was working just fine.

Screenshot below. To note that there’s no reference anywhere to an “everything” group, just the old two room setup I created in the old app, where I definitely could edit these settings as needed. It all still works from the Sonos app, but I can’t use that for Apple Podcasts and its interface with iTunes isn’t really fit for purpose, so I need AirPlay.