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August 31, 2018
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Two networks - one Controller ?

  • August 31, 2018
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I've seen reference to the Controller 'auto-switching' between 2 networks .... not for me. I have to reset the controller to access the devices on each network. How can I have one controller which detects each network as appropriate?
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Best answer by castalla
DOH!

SOLVED!

I discovered that the Sonos app on Win 7 was not displaying full screen - only slightly reduced, but just enough to hide the Connect buttons at the bottom of the screen ..... :@

Thanks for all the advice!

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castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
September 1, 2018
@Ken_Griffiths

Sounds reasonable, but when I reset the controller I don't get an option to connect to existing Sonos System or Household - the controller simply (but labouriously) loads the appropriate device on that network.

Can't face your total reset option at the moment! Thought the 2 household route would be simpler. The Sonos wifi settings are really unique - simply changing a router channel throws the Sonos into a fit (all other wifi devices accept the channel change gracefully!).
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September 1, 2018
@Ken_Griffiths

Sounds reasonable, but when I reset the controller I don't get an option to connect to existing Sonos System or Household - the controller simply (but labouriously) loads the appropriate device on that network.

Can't face your total reset option at the moment! Thought the 2 household route would be simpler. The Sonos wifi settings are really unique - simply changing a router channel throws the Sonos into a fit (all other wifi devices accept the channel change gracefully!).
Changing a channel should not have this effect. Changing routers causes everything to need a new IP address and for a system that has devices that constantly talk to each other this may be problematic.

I realise that your need for two ISPs is unusual, but the two network solution is far from the best solution, it seems to me. I would have expected the controller to flip, but I can't help thinking there is a piece of the jigsaw in your setup that we don't yet have. Maybe best call Sonos Support.
castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
September 1, 2018
Some progress. I tried switching using the Android controller which works as expected!

So, seems there's a problem with

PC controller on Win 7

or

Win 7 on my PC

I'll try with another PC with Win 10
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castallaAuthorAnswer
Local Superstar
September 1, 2018
DOH!

SOLVED!

I discovered that the Sonos app on Win 7 was not displaying full screen - only slightly reduced, but just enough to hide the Connect buttons at the bottom of the screen ..... :@

Thanks for all the advice!
It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -
Ken_Griffiths
September 1, 2018
castalla,

It really would be much simpler to setup both devices on just the one single router network. I have talked you through the 'step-by-step' procedure of hard-setting the Beam and how to do that, in your earlier thread. I chose the Beam, as it was your latest addition to your household. If you are reluctant to reset the device, then you could swap things around and reset the Sonos One instead and add that to your Beam Household by following the same instructions.

Otherwise, no matter what happens, your sonos controller devices will always have to switch between the two routers WiFi connections in order to talk to each of your Sonos Speakers and that really can be a laborious thing to have to do just to operate each speaker.

However it’s really upto you what you do in this situation, as it is your equipment.

Note also Johns advice above, to make contact Sonos Support, as they too are often able to assist with these things and can even remote connect to your PC, with your permission, to assist with the setup.

Hope that helps and gives you plenty of options to consider. Here is the link to contact Sonos Support:

Contact Sonos Customer Care
castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
September 1, 2018
Hi Ken!

Advice noted.

As ever there are always 'hidden' factors ...

The original router 1 also runs my Logitech Media Server system (via a Pi Zero-W) - this in turn sets up a bunch of speakers/players scattered around the house - at the moment these include Logitech Radios, a Logitech Touch connected to the main hifi system, a Libratone Zipp speaker, Sonos Play 1, a Google Mini, and a Loewe Airspeaker. All these can be controlled by the Touch display, or via PC/Android, and by an Alexa skill.

Setting up the Sonos as a LMS player/speaker is a good solution because LMS has a very good iPlayer plugin to get Listen Again programmes. A plus is that LMS integration doesn't alter the inbuilt Sonos system.

Given the Beam is almost exclusively used as a TV soundbar, I'm happy to have it on a separate system (although I can control the speakers/players on the other system using the Alexa squeezebox skill!)

Anyway, again thanks for the advice and help.
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Ken_Griffiths
September 1, 2018
castalla,

That’s okay you seem to be sorted now, as far as can be expected with two independent networks.

I’m just wondering now what you think of the new Beam, having had it working for a few days? I think you said it was a Birthday present? Hope the recipient is loving it too?... Wish someone would buy me one for my Birthday!... That’s really just a hint to my wife Jane, if she is reading this !! ??
castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
September 1, 2018
Yep - sorted !

I'm quite impressed by the Beam - TV sound much improved - has integrated well with a Samsung TV via ARC. The Sonos sound is good also. Alexa is also useful for our needs.

All in all, looks like it'll be staying!
It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -
Ken_Griffiths
September 1, 2018
Yep - sorted !

I'm quite impressed by the Beam - TV sound much improved - has integrated well with a Samsung TV via ARC. The Sonos sound is good also. Alexa is also useful for our needs.

All in all, looks like it'll be staying!

Yes, we have the Beam attached to the TV in our dining room, bonded with two Play:1’s we love it too. I may go for another in the bedroom, but I really need to upgrade the bedroom TV before doing that.

Glad you like it. ...All the best.
castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
September 1, 2018
Yep - sorted !

I'm quite impressed by the Beam - TV sound much improved - has integrated well with a Samsung TV via ARC. The Sonos sound is good also. Alexa is also useful for our needs.

All in all, looks like it'll be staying!

Yes, we have the Beam attached to the TV in our dining room, bonded with two Play:1’s we love it too. I may go for another in the bedroom, but I really need to upgrade the bedroom TV before doing that.

Glad you like it. ...All the best.


I have noticed when streaming some film sources (eg. Swedish TV 1 catch-up) there can be a very short drop in the sound - milliseconds. These occur randomly and can disappear totally. A bit annoying when it happens.

cheers
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