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Chromatic Producer I
May 12, 2021
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SONOS speakers largely under-exploited.

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SONOS speakers largely under-exploited. Being an audiophile for a long time, I notice that the qualities of the Sonos speakers are of great precision and of great quality. On the other hand it is spoiled at the level of the system which manages them, in effect the application does not offer in ANY WAY to adjust the sound to the top level with an equalizer (10 bands and +). Since every style of music is NOT EQUALS AT ALL, a professional sound system such as SONOS should give us the choice by offering us a QUALITY EQUALIZER option. This has not been the case for many years god knows why. It seems to me that it is not necessary to be an expert in sound to understand that if you want to listen to classical music, hip hop or even pop or country, each style of music requires its own configuration to have sound quality AND UNFORTUNATELY Sonos is ignoring this problem. 
Will there be someone one day who will eventually make SONOS understand how does a quality sound system work?
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Best answer by Xander P

Hi @Thewizard2000, thanks for raising this with the community!

While it’s not a particularly frequent request, further control via equalizer has been put forward as a feature request previously, and I can certainly understand that some users may want more granular control of the Sonos system.

(As an aside, part of the reason for jumping in late was indeed interest in where the conversation would go - rest assured we’ve noted your interest and have forwarded it to the development team :slight_smile: )

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Jeffrey_35
Headliner III
May 12, 2021

While I can see where you are coming from and understand your strong desire for more control; I can also see the desire for simplicity. As someone who has never touched an equalizer in my life (both in cars or with high end audio equipment) I rely on how it was originally done and dare I say trust that they are optimizing it for what the artist had in mind. I would also say that the Sonos staff are extremely dedicated to optimizing each music experience and style on their equipment prior to production. Not sure the style of music you prefer but try Sonos Radio HD or one of the other hi-def services and you will be blown away with what some of those speakers produce. 

“The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.”
chicks
May 12, 2021

Sonos speakers have sophisticated in-built DSP room EQ, called TruePlay.  No need for manual EQ, which most would simply screw up.

Chromatic Producer I
May 12, 2021

 

@Jeffrey_35 There are people like you who like simplicity, there are people like me who like to maximize the potential of our products. That’s the beauty of it. I respect your choice and Sonos should respect it too.

Chromatic Producer I
May 12, 2021

@chicks This TruePlay system is only available on Apple, no TruePlay on Android devices.

chicks
May 12, 2021

@chicks This TruePlay system is only available on Apple, no TruePlay on Android devices.

No, the TUNING process can only be done on Apple.  Once tuned, will stay that way, regardless of which OS the control app is running on.  Borrow an iPhone...

Chromatic Producer I
May 12, 2021
Thanks i will try it but i am 100% sure it does not and will never replace a real equalizer that the user chooses to configure by HIMSELF and not one made by a robot. Sometimes you have to go back to the source of things that works and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.
chicks
May 12, 2021
Thanks i will try it but i am 100% sure it does not and will never replace a real equalizer that the user chooses to configure by HIMSELF and not one made by a robot. Sometimes you have to go back to the source of things that works and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

Trust me, it will stick.  

 

BTW, every DSP Room correction system, from Anthem, etc, is automated, using a calibrated microphone and a tuning process.  Some of them cost a lot more than a Sonos speaker.  They do correct for room nodes that a yokel with a 10-band EQ will never correct for manually.

May 13, 2021
SONOS speakers largely under-exploited. Being an audiophile for a long time, I notice that the qualities of the Sonos speakers are of great precision and of great quality. On the other hand it is spoiled at the level of the system which manages them, in effect the application does not offer in ANY WAY to adjust the sound to the top level with an equalizer (10 bands and +). Since every style of music is NOT EQUALS AT ALL, a professional sound system such as SONOS should give us the choice by offering us a QUALITY EQUALIZER option. 

I have spent a decade in the Alice in Wonderland world of audiophiles; it was a very expensive hobby.

There was and probably still exists a very strong body of opinion in that world about how tone controls of any kind do not have a place in a truly audiophile set up, because they corrupt the signal. The supposedly virgin signal. Which is why even today, many stereo amps offer a choice to bypass tone controls because the belief is that even if the tone controls are set to flat, that circuitry corrupts the virgin.

Then there are respected makes like Quad that know that the final result isn't from the virgin signal alone, but how it, fed into the speakers, makes the speakers deliver sound that interacts with room acoustics before it is heard and that this corruption needs to be countered by the corruption of tilt control - in essence a way to change the slope of the entire frequency response such that no frequency is allowed to unnaturally jump out.

And there are the conventional tone controls, the kind Sonos has. A equaliser is nothing but a toy for boys that want to imagine themselves at mixing consoles, or even on the bridge of Starship Enterprise. It does little more to the SQ than what Sonos Eq can do if used in every permutation/combination of the Sonos sliders. Where it does more, is by rendering the sound to be unnatural. Now, there are some who want that option, but Sonos does not seem to see that lot as its target market.

True play is of course just the Sonos opinion of what is the correct sound for a given room. I find that it either has no more than a very subtle or no effect, or a beneficial one where the Sub is in the mix. But that does not mean that it has to be everyone’s taste, this Sonos opinion, which is why Sonos offers the option of toggling it off. Which can be done on Android devices as well.

Chromatic Producer I
May 13, 2021

@Kumar

Kumar I don't understand why you treat people like boys who play games, those who use an equalizer. We should first of all respect people. Then since I was 10 years old that I appreciate the quality of sound, today I work in music and I am in relation with people who work with concert sound equipment of very great value and let me tell you, these people all have analog equalizers and aren't playing with toys. They are qualified people who know what they are doing. Now with regard to Sonos if the option can affect the virgin quality of the signal then it will be necessary to weigh the pros and cons, either to have a loss to the virgin signal or to have a poorly calibrated sound. As a customer I would like to HAVE THE CHOICE and well for the moment it is obviously not possible. If unfortunately the sound would not be virgin even in flat mode, then simply have a button to bypass this mode completely according to the customer's desire.
May 13, 2021

@Kumar

in relation with people who work with concert sound equipment of very great value and let me tell you, these people all have analog equalizers and aren't having fun like boys. They are qualified people who know what they are doing.

If you think that by adding an equaliser to Sonos at home, you will get the same kind of control that people referred to above get in a sound mixing studio, it is not going to happen. That is what I meant by equaliser use - I was not referring to those that use it in a mixing studio.

I do not for a moment believe that a quality home sound system must have an equaliser, and I suspect Sonos thinks the same way. So there is very little chance that Sonos will give you this feature - you have to now figure out your next steps.