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Contributor I
September 13, 2020

SMB v1 only ? 3000 $ network stereo, and I have to weaken my security for mp3 files?

  • September 13, 2020
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Whats the Eta for SMB v2 and 3 ?
This is why I was worried of spending this kind of money on 1 vender. Vender lock in, and apparently security is irelevant.

I waited years to buy sonos, because I knew stuff like this would happen with vendor lock in….

I just want ot map a Network share from a NAS. Its not magic….

 

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Lyricist III
November 3, 2020

Hi @amun, I’m not sure when you tried Plex but for me it's integrated in the Sonos app as music source. If you used it years ago, maybe you could give it another try.

I do have a slightly a more powerful setup than a NAS I admit. My setup is a home server (Intel based) with OpenMediaVault and Plex installed. The server holds my music library, video files, and several other things. I already had Plex running on it as my mediaserver and love it. I also have a PlexPass subscription which enables rich metadata for music libraries, as well as the wonderful and beautiful PlexAmp app.

In Sonos you can add your Plex server as media source. It then integrates into the Sonos app as source, similar to Spotify. This setup works fine for me and is stable.

So via Plex, playing local media ambums from my server/NAS to Sonos works well. It serves FLAC up to 44.1/16bit and higher resolutions are automatically converted by the Plex server. While I prefer the richness and beauty of the Plex and PlexAmp apps over the basic Sonos integration, it works just fine (similar to Spotify). Casting from Plex to Sonos doesn't work, but I don't use that (only to Chromecast).

Lyricist III
November 3, 2020

I’ve come to terms with the fact that Sonos just doesn’t cut it any more for NAS users, so am prepared to move to whatever works best for me. @Kumar has some interesting solutions if you’re interested in voice control - I’m not, personally, but it does seem to be increasingly popular ;-)

No thanks, I'll pass on the microphones everywhere, eavesdropping on every conversation in my house ;-)

Airgetlam
November 4, 2020

So no cell phone, or land line?

Bruce
Lyricist III
November 4, 2020

Getting off-topic (this was about bad SMB support), happy to discuss privacy in another thread or forum.

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
November 5, 2020

If you have a NAS now the SMB v1 gateway is the cleanest solution. If you don’t have a NAS and just need your music on one then the dedicated to Sonos NAS is the way to go.

The Pi option really is pretty simple and inexpensive if you use a Pi Zero-W (the W is important, don’t get a plain Zero) or any Pi that has an Ethernet port. Lots are available used too.

Setup is simple enough: Live Journal or https://stan-miller.livejournal.com/

 

A neat side effect of using a Pi is that you can run a user developed Sonos Controller on it and access that controller from anywhere you can do a VNC connection to your Pi.

http://pascalopitz.github.io/unoffical-sonos-controller-for-linux/

Lyricist I
December 13, 2020

Why is it difficult to SONOS to upgrade the system to SMBv2 or higher? Is that because of license fees or something? 

Lyricist I
December 13, 2020

Whats the Eta for SMB v2 and 3 ?
This is why I was worried of spending this kind of money on 1 vender. Vender lock in, and apparently security is irelevant.

I waited years to buy sonos, because I knew stuff like this would happen with vendor lock in….

I just want ot map a Network share from a NAS. Its not magic….

 

Je suis tout à fait d’accord avec Morrison, Sonos n’est pas une petite épicerie du coin quand même !
Je constate que beaucoup de personnes ont le même problème.

Airgetlam
December 13, 2020

Why is it difficult to SONOS to upgrade the system to SMBv2 or higher? Is that because of license fees or something? 

The consensus currently is that on the legacy products, there is not enough space available to update the Linux kernel to one that can accept a higher version of the SMB version. There is some hope that now that there has been a split between legacy (S1) and newer devices (S2) with more memory, the engineers will be able to add a newer version of SMB. So far, it appears they’ve been chasing bugs in S2, I have hopes that we might see something in the next large version change, so 13, not 12.x

Bruce
controlav
Lead Maestro
December 14, 2020

Why is it difficult to SONOS to upgrade the system to SMBv2 or higher? Is that because of license fees or something? 


Files on PCs and Macs, the first ever Sonos feature, can be played without SMB. Only NAS users are affected, and I assume that the % of those users is too tiny for Sonos to spend any engineering effort on it any more. See also: Desktop app Setup features.

The technical reasons for SMBv1 are very well documented in many other threads.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
106rallye
December 14, 2020

I just hope Sonos takes care of this, and includes an end to the 65k limit. This would open up a better use case for me.