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Contributor I
September 13, 2020

SMB v1 only ? 3000 $ network stereo, and I have to weaken my security for mp3 files?

  • September 13, 2020
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Whats the Eta for SMB v2 and 3 ?
This is why I was worried of spending this kind of money on 1 vender. Vender lock in, and apparently security is irelevant.

I waited years to buy sonos, because I knew stuff like this would happen with vendor lock in….

I just want ot map a Network share from a NAS. Its not magic….

 

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Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
September 14, 2020

Nobody has a guess about newer SMB versions, there was hope of something with the S2 release but nothing changed.

Easy way to do a share from your NAS without risking SMB v1 on it is a NAS to SMB v1 gateway. Here is how to do it on a Raspberry Pi, a Zero W will be good enough.

https://stan-miller.livejournal.com/357.html

There are instructions there for an SMB v1 Pi server too.

bockersjv
Local Superstar
September 14, 2020

I’ve used an odorous hc1 with open media vault to set up a dedicated NAS for my music. It’s the only device on my network with smb1 also better than PC on all the time

Lyricist III
September 21, 2020

It's a clever workaround, but setting up a second home server with insecure settings shouldn't be the way to solve this. Sonos needs to fix this. I posted this in a similar thread as well, but will spread the word in the hope someone at Sonos is listening.

Sonos is lazy and irresponsible for not fixing the insecure method to add a media library. Sonos requires SMB v1 which is long considered outdated and insecure. This is not some fringe use case, adding a media library is a core functionality of any home streaming system.

PLEASE Sonos, show us you care about user security and fix SMB support for the music library.

airforceteacher
Headliner I
September 21, 2020

+1 to hoping for and requesting a fix

Lyricist III
September 21, 2020

I've been reading a lot of the other threads abount SMB. This situation that Sonos requires insecure NAS access is unchanged for years already. Sonos has been completely silent about it.

Like Stanley contributed above, people were hoping the S2 update fixed NAS support, but it didn't. Sonos just doesn't seem to care at all about people that have their own media files(*).

It's sad, very sad. Bluesound can be an alternative but more expensive, and many of us have a lot invested in Sonos gear already.

(*) I and many others do, because not everything we listen to is on streaming services and the quality of  local files is higher often higher (lossless) than streaming (lossy).

Trending Lyricist I
November 3, 2020

FWIW, I’ll add my voice to those asking for an update to SMB. While trying to set up a new Synology DS220j NAS device, I ran into the “serverstack” error -- which it turns out was something of a red-herring. I found a forum post that led me to Synology’s DSM Control Panel > File Services > SMB > Advanced Settings where I set Minimum SMB Protocol = 1 (Eureka!) Bad news is that the same post included warnings from other users about the security risks posed by SMB1. I’ll continue to research safer ways to connect to my new NAS but SONOS, if you are listening, please fix this.

Thanks for what is otherwise a fantastic system.

-Mike

Lyricist III
November 3, 2020

Hi Mike, unfortunately Sonos has proven time and again that they just don't care about supporting local media files on a NAS. Tough luck for us.

The workaround that Stanley posed (a hack which includes a separate server on a pi or similar board) seems to be the best and most secure way to deal with Sonos's insecure SMB implementation. But you need to be quite tech-savvy.

November 3, 2020

seems to be the best and most secure way to deal with Sonos's insecure SMB implementation. But you need to be quite tech-savvy.

It’s a way, but should be totally unnecessary in what is meant to be an easy to use  home audio system. I found the easiest way was just to dedicate a cheap NAS to Sonos, and only put important data on more secure devices.

Having read many posts on the subject over the years, it sounds like the older kit couldn’t run more modern kernels. It’s therefore particularly disappointing that they didn’t base S2 on something more up to date and sort out the problem once and for all.

When I first bought into Sonos it was an expensive but slick option for streaming local music. However, over the years Sonos have let it slip big time, and I now regard it as purely a legacy system, on borrowed time. If I had to replace it, it wouldn’t be with other Sonos kit, although I have intermediate fall-backs in place ;-)

Lyricist III
November 3, 2020

seems to be the best and most secure way to deal with Sonos's insecure SMB implementation. But you need to be quite tech-savvy.

It’s a way, but should be totally unnecessary in what is meant to be an easy to use  home audio system. I found the easiest way was just to dedicate a cheap NAS to Sonos, and only put important data on more secure devices.

That's another variation on the theme, both require a second (insecure) server of some kind just for Sonos.

I'm using Plex these days which I had running on my home server already.

November 3, 2020

seems to be the best and most secure way to deal with Sonos's insecure SMB implementation. But you need to be quite tech-savvy.

It’s a way, but should be totally unnecessary in what is meant to be an easy to use  home audio system. I found the easiest way was just to dedicate a cheap NAS to Sonos, and only put important data on more secure devices.

That's another variation on the theme, both require a second (insecure) server of some kind just for Sonos.

I'm using Plex these days which I had running on my home server already.

Yes, that’s right - the Sonos NAS (an LG) is sacrificial - it has no important data on it.

I set a Plex server up on my Synology NAS. Using the PC (web) version of Plex, everything seemed OK. I can’t remember whether it had folder support, though. However, the Plex version for Sonos was very restricted - effectively useless for my purposes.

I prefer casting to the Plex approach, but for convenience it does require Chromecast capability. You can get away with casting direct to the Sonos hardware, but it’s not ideal.

I’ve come to terms with the fact that Sonos just doesn’t cut it any more for NAS users, so am prepared to move to whatever works best for me. @Kumar has some interesting solutions if you’re interested in voice control - I’m not, personally, but it does seem to be increasingly popular ;-)