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Enthusiast II
December 31, 2023

Sonos is forcing people to buy new hardware as they've broken the Connect:Amp and they refuse to fix it

  • December 31, 2023
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Hi,

 

I'm recreating this thread, as the discussion wasn't finished, but it was locked. I also wanted to make it obvious this is a Sonos issue, not a client environment issue.

 

https://en.community.sonos.com/components-and-architectural-228999/connect-amp-keeps-dropping-out-audio-6885634/index2.html

 

I've been following this for a while because I've been having the same issues, and when I spoke to support they said the connect amp can't cope with modern software and that I should upgrade to the amp, which is clearly unacceptable.

 

This has been confirmed by people in that original thread who have been told the same thing.

 

BillJanzen

“FWIW, these issues seem to have occured after the June 2023 software update to S2 version 15.5. Interestingly, there is an alert posted in the release notes of the 15.6 update released July 25, 2023 about adjusting how older Sonos products use their internal memory. See below (copied from https://support.sonos.com/en-ca/article/release-notes-for-sonos-s2):  Alerts:      With this update, we’ve adjusted how some of our older Sonos products are using their internal memory. Because of this change, updates for Play:1, Play:3, Boost, Connect, Connect:Amp, and Sub (Gen 1 and 2) will take longer to complete than before. The reset process for these products will also take more time to complete after this update.”

 

BillJanzen

“We continue to have intermittent drop-outs on all 4 of our Connect:Amp devices, so here’s my update after 1.5 hours on the phone with Sonos today. They said the diagnostics for one of the Connect:Amp devices the chose to investigate showed multiple major alerts, including:      Cannot allocate memory to full status     Write failed     Player crashed: out of memory     OOM Killer  These items all sound like they are related to memory issues with the older Connect:Amp product, as Big Bull mentioned in his previous post.”

 

Big Bull:

“Ok latest is I powered down 3 of my 4 units and just had the one I use most running hard wired to the router through my switch and it still gave dropouts so I sent 2 diagnostics to Sonos and they said : 

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Thanks, so on this one in specific I can see the audio interruptions are caused because the product basically is old, and it is reaching its capabilities, there are some things that can be done to try to reduce the impact of this, but if it continues this product will need to be replaced with the upgrade program. 

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I am being advised to replace any affected units with the Sonos Amp which can be costly.”

 

Birchan

“  Same problem, 4 AMP of which two lose sound...  SONOS did a wrong analysis and accidentally said that there were memory failures in some of the units. But since they only give a 2-year warranty, mine was 2.5 years too old. How can SONOS sell products that obviously have manufacturing problems and then say that they can replace them with a 30% discount on new ones? Wonder if Tesla would sell cars that stop working after 2 years and say, sorry you have to buy a new car every two years because the warranty has expired. So bad from SONOS so I will be discontinuing my SONOS system and switching to BOSE...  “

 

For context, in my situation I have a connect amp, connected via ethernet with WiFi off, and I started to get regular drop outs around June. It's incredibly annoying, the audio will drop out for a few seconds before continuing, if other speakers are grouped they will carry on fine.

 

It's absolutely 100% not a network issue. When I was debugging it, I briefly made the connect amp the only wired device and turned on WiFi, and other speakers in my house worked perfectly at all times. I've also reserved IP addresses, and I ran a ping monitor on it to check for any network dropouts. There were none. I've put the system back now, so the connect amp has its WiFi off.

 

So it seems to me that Sonos have released a firmware update that the connect amp cannot handle, and rather than take responsibility for it, they're just fobbing people off telling them to buy expensive new hardware to solve the problem, not even with any substantial discount. It's unacceptable. This connect amp worked perfectly before June.

 

Sonos needs to release a new update that solves the issue, or give people affected substantial discounts on replacement amps, and formally announce that the connect amp is end of life. Currently people with issues on this forum are being unintentionally gaslighted by well meaning people who don't know that this issue exists. Sonos cannot say the connect amp is supported when they've released a broken update.

 

People need to know about this issue, I've seen loads of topics about this issue and people get fobbed off with network issues, which is absolutely not the case, at all. Big Bull proved this by doing a replacement to amps which solved his issue.

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Pinned Reply By Corry P

Hi @britcowboy 

Thanks for bringing this back to my attention.

We now consider this issue to be largely resolved, and any remaining cases are being dealt with on an individual basis. If you still encounter the issue described here, I recommend you get in touch with our technical support team who have tools at their disposal that will allow them to give you advice specific to your Sonos system and what it reports.

I hope this helps.

294 replies

Lyricist II
May 17, 2024

So as of right now, the latest software update removed my entire music library from Sonos. I went in to the ‘advanced sharing’ options on my Windows/iTunes music folder, re-added the music library successfully, and the awful sound issue where tracks keep dropping out appears to be resolved. Will it last???🤞🏼🤞🏼

Enthusiast II
May 21, 2024

It isn't just shameful, it is in bad faith. Sonos can do this only so many times before having to deal with the consequences of this appalling behaviour. And I am not referring to the removal of the ability to roll back to S1, that may well be one of the many unintended consequence of this latest debacle.

Yup, I was aiming to get a Sonos Arc at some point when I get a new TV, until they fix this and the new app, I’m not giving any more money to Sonos.

Avid Contributor II
May 24, 2024

So. Grumbles with the new app aside, I’ve switched off the overnight power downs via my smart switches to my connect amps and they seem to be behaving themselves now. It’s a bit slow (which I think is due to the app) but they seem to be functioning correctly. Anybody else noticed this?

Lyricist II
May 30, 2024

I still cannot downgrade to S1 due to Sonos removing that ability in the software… very frustrating not being able to do this after finally discovering a fix for this horrible issue.  Just venting.  Hope they bring back the ability in short order.

Lyricist I
June 2, 2024

Thank you for the posts I thought it so bad ot must just be me. The app has now disabled my ability to play my music paid for from another provider who I must contact as I fear it's the only solution. Sonos are rediculous pathetic and on a course of self destruction.anyone want to buy my 5 devices they used to work well now they're expensive blocks 

How does company get away with such a pathetic app and no customer services

 

Enthusiast II
June 2, 2024

So. Grumbles with the new app aside, I’ve switched off the overnight power downs via my smart switches to my connect amps and they seem to be behaving themselves now. It’s a bit slow (which I think is due to the app) but they seem to be functioning correctly. Anybody else noticed this?

Keep us updated. I've blocked all updates since the new app, and still on the old one for now

Avid Contributor II
June 4, 2024

So. Grumbles with the new app aside, I’ve switched off the overnight power downs via my smart switches to my connect amps and they seem to be behaving themselves now. It’s a bit slow (which I think is due to the app) but they seem to be functioning correctly. Anybody else noticed this?

Keep us updated. I've blocked all updates since the new app, and still on the old one for now

I wouldn’t until the app is sorted as it’s still sluggish & lacking functionality, although getting better.  (Connect Amps behaving themselves still….)

Avid Contributor III
June 11, 2024

New poster here - I’ve just found this thread after 2 weeks of trying to find out why my Connect (Gen2) keeps dropping out. 

I have 4x Play:1s, a Play:3, Beam and Connect, running on mesh Wifi. Apart from the usual occasional “what speaker? The one that’s playing right now? Nope, don’t know what you’re talking about”, they’ve been pretty solid for 6 months. I “upgraded” to the latest app version, then immediately downgraded when it became clear I couldn’t play my local library. 

In the last 2 weeks, the Connect has been unable to hold a Wifi signal. It’ll connect, start playing, then drop within about 3 minutes, and have to be added back to the Sonos app as a ‘new’ device. All other Sonos are fine. My latest experiment has been putting the Play:3 next to the Connect to see if it can hold the wifi signal - 20 minutes in, the Play:3 is still playing fine, and the Connect has dropped off again. 

So it seems to be the same issue as mentioned here. My question is… would factory resetting the Connect (and all others) and rolling back the S2 app to some older version help at all? Or will the Connect only play ball if it’s downgraded entirely to S1? 

 

Enthusiast II
June 11, 2024

You can’t roll any of the apps (either S1 or S2) back to an older version and Sonos has removed the ability to roll a device back to S1 if it’s currently on S2. Until they re-instate that feature, you’re stuck with in-op amps, I’m afraid. 

Avid Contributor III
June 11, 2024

Thanks ANOpax. I factory reset the Connect and now can’t reconnect it without ‘upgrading’ to v80. Which, given the Connect doesn’t work with it, isn’t really worth it. So I’ll hold on til they add S1 downgrading back in, and see how it goes from there.

 

Sonos really does have form at telling its customers to take a flying jump into the nearest lake (to put it politely). The events leading up to the S1/ S2 fork, the awful v80 app purely for the headphones release, and firmware that bricks older but still very functional products. Absolutely shocking behaviour from any company.