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Contributor I
May 27, 2021

Music Added to running queue ignored

  • May 27, 2021
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Hi all,

apologies in advance for the length of the post, just want to cover all I can to save on questions.

I have looked over the forums and troubleshooting but can find a solution other than the usual “blame the users network” as the cause of the issue I will try and describe below. I am biased as I am a networker by trade but the answer of network fault makes no sense and I hope to explain why.

Only in the last month or so when I add a song to a queue, that is already running, it misses any addition and continues on to the next song. If it was a network / connectivity issue it would do this to most if not all songs not just the ones I add to the list, the songs in the original queue don’t ever skip or fail to be played. This happens with different playlist queues and created for you playlists from Spotify, so random songs and queues from day to day but issue is consistent. In addition there are no error messages displayed, simply song added to queue shows when the song is dropped into the queue.


I have tested this on a paired set of Symfonisk Sonos/ikea lamps , with and without a Move also in the mix and have also experimented with my living room setup of a playbar, sub and 2 play 1’s, same issue every time. 

While they are all wirelessly connected and grouped separately and the lamps /move are in the dinning room / conservatory I have an additional WAP with EOP providing the data feed and the this WAP is no more than 10 meters from any of the kit. My living room setup runs from my main Wifi router and is again under 10 meters from the router. WIFI signal is excellent and I have no issues streaming services, making video calls etc from these rooms, so as we say in my office, NTFN ( not the network, expletive deleted)

I have been through the obvious reboot of kit , as I said above no issues with any streaming other than the missing of newly added songs to the queue, all music is being streamed from Spotify and the Spotify App does not have the same problem, I can connect to my Sonos kit via the Spotify App, play a queue, add a song and it plays in sequence. So looks very much like an issue with the Sonos App.

If anyone else has had or having this issue and has a solution, other than use the Spotify App, I'd appreciate the feed back.

thanks for listening.

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29 replies

May 27, 2021

Hi. When you add the new song, exactly which option - word for word - are you choosing from the options menu?

Ken_Griffiths
May 27, 2021

I’ve not had/seen the issue, but I am aware that Sonos do not support EOP access points, so whilst j appreciate that you have no issues with WiFi connectivity, I was wondering that if you switch off that AP if the problem goes away, even if that means moving some devices either closer to the main router, or running them over a SonosNet mesh connection with one device wired to the router?

User44662Author
Contributor I
May 27, 2021

First of all, thanks both for the reply.

 

John, I am selecting play next from the menu option when using the 3 dot menu drop down against the song I want to play. When I select play now or add to end of queue that works fine ( if I wait until the end of the queue the song will play)

Ken, I don’t know if this is splitting hairs re what Sonos will or will not support but while its a WAP with an EOP feed it is actually a Cisco AP that uses an EOP plug to receive its data not a WIFI extender or AP that has EOP built in. Again as the issue doesn’t happen using Spotify App over same AP and feed it suggests to me its something that the Sonos App is not managing to handle re sequencing.

As I said earlier this has only started happening in the last month or so prior to this there was no issue, only thing that has changed in that time is I have added a Move to my Sonos environment, don’t see how that should effect queue when playing music in the living room that does not involve the Move, but it may be a factor i am unaware of. I have tried to replicate the issue with the move powered down but issue persists.

 

Thanks again.

Ken_Griffiths
May 27, 2021

This is Sonos’s list from their requirements page …

Unsupported network setups and devices

  • Wireless internet connections such as satellite, mobile hotspots, or LTE routers
  • Guest networks or networks that use a portal login page
  • Networks using wireless range extenders 
  • Ethernet over Power (EOP) devices
  • WPA/WPA2 Enterprise

I know that’s not actually of help to you, but I would just see what happens when the AP is taken offline, if only to eliminate it being a communication issue between a speaker and the controller, if both are maybe attached to different AP’s.

controlav
Lead Maestro
May 27, 2021

You are in Scotland, not suffering from one of these are you:

 

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
User44662Author
Contributor I
May 28, 2021

Hi Controlav, no wouldn’t go any where near BT for anything. While their engineers are more often than not good or even excellent, their customer support and back office assistance is nearly always awful.

 

 Ken, I will take the 2nd AP out of the equation at some point today hopefully but have an additional question for you. When you say controller in above reply, do you mean my device ie phone/tablet? I only ask as i have never looked into but wondered if the sonos system uses one of the devices as an anchor of sorts for the other devices you add to your network. Just checking you don’t mean a controlling speaker , if there is such a thing. 

 

I have also done another quick test on a separate Play 3 in the house, it did the same and even did this when i added a song to the end of the queue, then moved it up to play next by editing and the system still skipped past it, I immediately went into the queue and hit the song I had moved and it played instantly with no delay, again suggesting its not a feed/network issue more an issue with the app not dealing with the change being made to the queue.

 

I do prefer the Sonos App to the Spotify which is why i am wasting my time trying to work this out, thanks all for your responses, and taking time to read my rambling.

May 28, 2021

I can confirm that ‘Play Next’ still works as expected on my system, and so there does not appear to be a generic issue.  The absence of this issue from anyone else on the forum suggests that it is either a local issue or some very rare combination of circumstances.

May 28, 2021

From the context, Ken was referring to the Sonos app controller.

As an aside, when speakers are grouped, one acts as ‘group co-ordinator’, but I don’t think that is relevant here.

May 28, 2021

Please would you try the following and report back?

  1. For one of your speakers, clear the queue
  2. In the Sonos app, search for an album and play it from Spotify, so that the playing queue consists of that album
  3. Find another Spotify track (within Sonos app) and ‘Play Next’
User44662Author
Contributor I
May 28, 2021

John, thanks for the feed back.

 

Just carried out the procedure you listed above, issue persists.

 

Will remove AP later hopefully and report back, only problem I may have is I introduce a new problem of poor wifi signal in the area the AP covers. A little speaker shuffling may also be required.

 

May also get round to patching my Playbar to the router and moving to sonosnet and to see if that helps.

 

Thanks all.