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Contributor I
March 15, 2014
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Zp80 versus Connect

  • March 15, 2014
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I am adding a new zone to an existing multizone setup. This will be a zone connected to a home theater receiver, to allow the home theater speakers to be used as a Sonos zone when the TV is not in use. The consultant I am working with has spec'ed a Sonos Connect for this setup. I have an old ZP80 that I am not currently using. Can I put that in, instead of buying a Connect? The rest of the system uses ZP90's connected to amps and ZP100s connected directly to speakers. Also, if I use the 80s and 100s in my system, will I have any compatibility issues if I want to add new units later, such as SUBs or PLAY:1 (or :3 or :5)? Thanks for your help.
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    ratty
    January 24, 2016
    BTW, I didn't mean cut the cable, I meant buy a 1x2 plastic adapter like this:
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    FWIW those cable economisers have to be used in pairs. They exploit the fact that there are eight cores in an Ethernet cable and 100Mbps only requires four. They can therefore cram two separate connections down the one cable run. They can't make a single router Ethernet port magically support two devices.
    January 24, 2016
    How can I determine the speed of my connection although I suspect is NOT faster then 100Mbit/s?

    I don't mean your internet connection, I mean the ports on your router.

    >>Yes, as stated previously they are functionally identical (the ZP90 IS identical to the Connect in fact, only the name was changed).
    I thought they operated on different network standards? Would It matter?


    Nope, no more than it does when you have a bridge in the system that works on the same older standard.
    tomjv
    Contributor I
    January 24, 2016
    Great info, THANKS guys! So, I guess I'll buy a Z80 for my meager application and see how it goes.

    Aside; how do you guys like the Sonos long term? I keep running in to these people saying how awful the company is . . .greedy, no support, intentionally "pushing" upgrades until the system is instable . . . Should I be worried? I LIKE the product so far and want to buy more.
    TomJV
    jgatie
    January 25, 2016
    I've had my system for 8 years. It's been as stable as a concrete doorstop. On the very few occasions I needed support, they've been outstanding. You are going to get a few unhappy campers, but they are always going to be there with any product.
    tomjv
    Contributor I
    January 25, 2016
    Great news jgatie,
    Thanks!
    TomJV
    June 20, 2016
    Great info, THANKS guys! So, I guess I'll buy a Z80 for my meager application and see how it goes.

    Aside; how do you guys like the Sonos long term? I keep running in to these people saying how awful the company is . . .greedy, no support, intentionally "pushing" upgrades until the system is instable . . . Should I be worried? I LIKE the product so far and want to buy more.
    TomJV


    Have you been happy with using the ZP80 in your system?

    I want to introduce a line-in into my system (mainly for Chromecast Audio) and need to decide whether to get a Connect or save some pennies and go for a used ZP80.
    June 20, 2016
    First, the quote about Sonos being greedy, pushing upgrades etc absolutely astonishes me and is a million miles from the truth. Software and firmware upgrades are free and often significant, and the company's record on maintaining back-compatibility is second to none. Support is excellent in my experience.

    I thought the Connect was just a renaming of the ZP80, although maybe there was an upgrade at some point. I'm sure someone else will clarify that.

    Do you need both a Connect and a Chromecast? What do you have in your Sonos system at the moment and what do you want to stream through the Chromecast?
    jgatie
    June 20, 2016
    Connect is a rebadging of the ZP90, which was an upgrade to the ZP80. The main difference between the two is the 'n' based Sonosnet 2.0 wireless in the newer models.
    June 20, 2016

    Do you need both a Connect and a Chromecast? What do you have in your Sonos system at the moment and what do you want to stream through the Chromecast?


    At the moment I only I have a single Play:1. Been trying out for about a year, and now its time to expand. Will probably get 3 or 4 more speakers.

    I find the constraints of the Sonos controller both a blessing and a curse. A blessing because non-technical members of the household find it extremely easy to use. This (as well as stability) is a key reason I think I will expand the Sonos system instead of switching to a full Google Cast system

    However, I'm a bit more demanding than those that I live with and want some freedom from the constraints, hence interest in integrating Google Cast with Sonos.
    One thing I dislike is the podcast options within Sonos. I want to use my preferred podcasts solution (PocketCasts), who support Google Cast but not Sonos.
    Another reason is I like tracking my listening history via last.fm. If I connect last.fm to the Sonos, everyone's listening history gets recorded in my last.fm account, which spoils the recommendations. If I route my music via a Chromecast I can isolate my listening history.
    June 20, 2016
    Connect is a rebadging of the ZP90, which was an upgrade to the ZP80. The main difference between the two is the 'n' based Sonosnet 2.0 wireless in the newer models.

    Have people been noticing a tangible benefit with Sonosnet 2.0?
    If you have a single device that's not Sonosnet 2.0, does the whole network drop down?
    I currently use a bridge, which I understand does not support Sonosnet 2.0.

    Out of curiosity, is there page anywhere that lists every Sonos device ever sold and notes which support Sonosnet 2.0?