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Contributor I
March 15, 2014
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Zp80 versus Connect

  • March 15, 2014
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I am adding a new zone to an existing multizone setup. This will be a zone connected to a home theater receiver, to allow the home theater speakers to be used as a Sonos zone when the TV is not in use. The consultant I am working with has spec'ed a Sonos Connect for this setup. I have an old ZP80 that I am not currently using. Can I put that in, instead of buying a Connect? The rest of the system uses ZP90's connected to amps and ZP100s connected directly to speakers. Also, if I use the 80s and 100s in my system, will I have any compatibility issues if I want to add new units later, such as SUBs or PLAY:1 (or :3 or :5)? Thanks for your help.
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    jgatie
    March 15, 2014
    You can use the ZP80, which is the previous version of the Connect.  The only difference between the ZP80 and the ZP90/Connect (Connect is just a rebadged ZP90) is the ZP80 uses Sonosnet 1 vs. Zp90 uses Sonosnet 2 (think of it as WiFi 'g' vs. WiFi 'n').  In all other aspects they are identical.
    John_248Author
    Contributor I
    March 15, 2014
    Thanks for the quick reply. Sounds like I can use the ZP80 and can add new SUB and/or PLAY:x without any issues. Very helpful.
    Avid Contributor I
    June 22, 2014
    You can use the ZP80, which is the previous version of the Connect.  The only difference between the ZP80 and the ZP90/Connect (Connect is just a rebadged ZP90) is the ZP80 uses Sonosnet 1 vs. Zp90 uses Sonosnet 2 (think of it as WiFi 'g' vs. WiFi 'n').  In all other aspects they are identical.
    This is interesting.  So while not the same -- they will function the same within their limits.  Seems like the ZP90 will have longer wireless range?  But that would only matter in a few cases?
    Avid Contributor I
    July 15, 2014
    You can use the ZP80, which is the previous version of the Connect.  The only difference between the ZP80 and the ZP90/Connect (Connect is just a rebadged ZP90) is the ZP80 uses Sonosnet 1 vs. Zp90 uses Sonosnet 2 (think of it as WiFi 'g' vs. WiFi 'n').  In all other aspects they are identical.
    Are there really no other differences?  

    My two ZP80 -- even when wired, or within 20 feet of my wired Play1 -- loses it's connection/disappears from the system/network several times a day.  

    On the other hand, both of my Play1's are rock solid, always present, without hiccups.
    Chris
    Lead Maestro
    July 15, 2014
    Just a note:  You can not bond the Sub with the ZP80.   You can bond the Sub with a Play:x and group with the ZP80 and then the Sub would be outputting with all (connect feeding full range to your amplifier and Play:x being fed highs, mid, with its lows going to SUB).

    Just realize if you have a ZP80 hooked to an existing receiver.  You can't bond Sub with the ZP80 and then it pass mid's and high's to your receiver and low end to the Sonos Sub.

    http://www.sonos.com/documents/productguides/EN/SubGuide_EN.pdf
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    Avid Contributor I
    December 3, 2015
    You can use the ZP80, which is the previous version of the Connect.  The only difference between the ZP80 and the ZP90/Connect (Connect is just a rebadged ZP90) is the ZP80 uses Sonosnet 1 vs. Zp90 uses Sonosnet 2 (think of it as WiFi 'g' vs. WiFi 'n').  In all other aspects they are identical.
    Are there really no other differences?  

    My two ZP80 -- even when wired, or within 20 feet of my wired Play1 -- loses it's connection/disappears from the system/network several times a day.  

    On the other hand, both of my Play1's are rock solid, always present, without hiccups.


    The op is talking about zp80 versus 90 but the issue you are talking about is something different. Sonos support can advise. They can look at the logs and figure it out. I had that issue and it was a hardware failure.
    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    December 3, 2015

    Are there really no other differences?  

    My two ZP80 -- even when wired, or within 20 feet of my wired Play1 -- loses it's connection/disappears from the system/network several times a day.  

    On the other hand, both of my Play1's are rock solid, always present, without hiccups.


    CONNECT and ZP90's use more effective radios. If you are on the edge with respect to interference or range, CONNECT and ZP90's will perform better. PLAY:1's radio is similar to CONNECT's radio. BOOST's radio and the new PLAY:5's radios are more advanced.
    tomjv
    Contributor I
    January 24, 2016
    Currently, I stream music from my pc to a set of P5s and P1s. I also want to stream from youtube etc. I was told I can buy a Connect and pipe my PC audio out via RCA adaptors to feed the Connect. Sounds easy.

    Questions:(IBM PC with Netgear nitehawk router)
    1. Can I buy a used Z80 or Z90? They are WAY cheaper. I understand the difference is the network protocol. My PC is pretty close to the router.
    My goal is to get rid of the PC speakers I have now and replace them with one Play1 AND have the option of using the nearby play5s paired with sub.
    Will the sub be a problem for the 80 or 90? (it's already paired with the play5s)
    2. I have the PC hard wired to the router. Can I split the Ethernet cable with some type of splitter device? That way I'd be hard wired.
    January 24, 2016
    Currently, I stream music from my pc to a set of P5s and P1s. I also want to stream from youtube etc. I was told I can buy a Connect and pipe my PC audio out via RCA adaptors to feed the Connect. Sounds easy.

    Questions:(IBM PC with Netgear nitehawk router)
    1. Can I buy a used Z80 or Z90?


    Yes, as stated previously they are functionally identical (the ZP90 IS identical to the Connect in fact, only the name was changed).

    My goal is to get rid of the PC speakers I have now and replace them with one Play1 AND have the option of using the nearby play5s paired with sub.
    Will the sub be a problem for the 80 or 90? (it's already paired with the play5s)


    No the sub won't be a problem, it'll remain bonded to the Play:5s, nothing will change in terms of operation. What you do need to be aware of is that by going down this route you will introduce a 70ms delay on the audio, so it will be behind any video you might be watching on the PC. There is nothing you can do about that.

    2. I have the PC hard wired to the router. Can I split the Ethernet cable with some type of splitter device? That way I'd be hard wired.


    No, you can't split ethernet cables, buy another one, they're dirt cheap (or should be don't pay any sort of money for a short length) and either wire the ZP directly to the router or if you don't have any free ports unplug the PC, plug the ZP into the router and then plug the PC into one of the spare ports on the ZP (the 90 has two ports, the 80 has 4, it makes no difference either way). Bear in mind this will cause the PC's network speed to drop to the speed of the ZPs ports, which are 100Mbit/s, however if your router is only 100Mbit/s you won't be making any difference anyway.
    tomjv
    Contributor I
    January 24, 2016
    Thanks for all the info! BTW, I didn't mean cut the cable, I meant buy a 1x2 plastic adapter like this:
    http://www.sfcable.com/1021-SF-01.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAiZK1BRD509nPsYiUk2YSJAAMoAwCUj0mAso926q2w2kTs1EI7DD0yrJ8Ows2RKkBD_t0ORoCfAbw_wcB

    Anyway, your suggestion is better. How can I determine the speed of my connection although I suspect is NOT faster then 100Mbit/s?

    >>Yes, as stated previously they are functionally identical (the ZP90 IS identical to the Connect in fact, only the name was changed).
    I thought they operated on different network standards? Would It matter?