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October 7, 2007

Zp 24/96

  • October 7, 2007
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Ability to play 24bit/96 files (like the competition: slimdevices transporter)
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    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    May 22, 2011
    livengood1,

    Even though there is a VERY vocal market segment that is demanding 24/96 support, without some good market research, we don't know if this segment is large enough to justify developing such a unit. One can argue that 24/96 is a pre purchase check box, but for how many? Again, do the numbers justify the development costs?

    I think that it is a no win proposition for SONOS to enter the discussion. You can imagine the 24/96 segment's reaction if SONOS said "no". If SONOS said "yes" the next flames would be about "when" and then "too late!!". A decent answer would be: "When market conditions justify the development costs", but this would not satisfy the 24/96 segment.

    On a technical note, sending 24/96 implies more data on the network. Systems that are currently on the edge due to wireless range and interference issues, will probably get into trouble. Existing customers will be quite steamed if this 24/96 upgrade "broke" their system. It is easy to imagine the cry: "My system worked perfectly before this 24/96 upgrade, now it does not work reliably, I can't play any 24/96 files." 24/96 revenue will have to be able to cover increased support costs too.
    Lyricist I
    May 30, 2011
    Cambridge Audio NP30 now on sale in UK at a well know retailer.
    Also Cyrus streamer products now hitting the shelves....

    I would not bother. A fool and his money can easily be parted.
    http://recivarefuge.net/forum/index.php?topic=237.0
    Contributor III
    June 3, 2011
    i have tried a bunch of other solutions since i sold my sonos (because of no hi rez support). i am currently fighting trying to get squeezebox software to play nice with my readynas (which there are a lot of other people in this boat). so out of hope i returned here to see if something new might finally be in the works. but alas, this thread just continues to be frustrating as it was a year ago when i last checked. seems to still be the same camps. the "marketing shows no one is interested in this" argument (yes, i agree - obviously almost EVERY OTHER music player has it wrong and isn't doing "marketing". or APPLE, god knows what fools they are at selling music). and the "why do i need this" camp, or as i like to call it, the why would i want my music player to play music better guys. i am sincerely hoping that sonos has something in the pipeline, because i would sure love to buy one. maybe i'm a lone crazed audiofool, but i would sure love to buy one. hey you could even sell it for a few thousand and get all the stereophile guys to buy one too!
    Contributor III
    June 3, 2011
    Ratso, I'm in your boat, having fought with the Squeezecenter on my ReadyNAS for a week before giving up and getting a refund on my Squeezebox Touch. The Cambridge unit above looks good but does not support ALAC, which is most of my music. So I'm using an outboard DAC with my ZP90.

    I'm pretty happy, but I look forward to a higher-res device and I don't want to spend the money on modding the ZP90; that seems like a waste. But I don't expect Sonos to track my preferences exactly; that's just not how businesses operate.

    I think I'll wait for the next cool device that I can control and set up easily which offers higher res support and works with ALAC. OR I may invest in a new NAS and see if I can throw my two ReadyNAS hard drives into it or buy new ones, and see if Squeezecenter can run on it, then get another Touch.

    The cool thing about Squeezecenter is it's free, so I can experiment with it before buying another Squeezebox product.
    NoBoB
    June 3, 2011
    i am currently fighting trying to get squeezebox software to play nice with my readynas (which there are a lot of other people in this boat).
    That's unfortunate. The ReadyNAS series seems to be popular in Sonos-land.

    ...obviously almost EVERY OTHER music player has it wrong ...

    I'd rather have it work every time all the time, but that might just be me.

    Good luck with your Squeezebox.
    gman
    Lyricist III
    June 3, 2011
    Ratso, I'm in your boat, having fought with the Squeezecenter on my ReadyNAS for a week before giving up and getting a refund on my Squeezebox Touch.

    AFAIK don't you need like a computer or at least a x86 based nas type device if you are going to run the squeeze centre? One of the major weaknesses IMO.


    The Cambridge unit above looks good but does not support ALAC, which is most of my music. So I'm using an outboard DAC with my ZP90.


    Check out the thread linked by the professor, based on my cursory read the cambridge unit looks very buggy.
    Contributor III
    June 3, 2011
    AFAIK don't you need like a computer or at least a x86 based nas type device if you are going to run the squeeze centre? One of the major weaknesses IMO.

    I don't know the exact requirements for it. My NAS ran the version made for NASs (not the PC version), but with a ton of problems. I was amazed at the technical issues and expertise on the forums there; everyone seemed to be an MIS geek. All the different hacks, mods, versions, nightly Beta updates ... just playing a damn song was like launching the Space Shuttle.:rolleyes:

    Check out the thread linked by the professor, based on my cursory read the cambridge unit looks very buggy.


    Ouch. Missed that; I'll check it out. Thanks.
    jgatie
    June 3, 2011
    I don't know the exact requirements for it. My NAS ran the version made for NASs (not the PC version), but with a ton of problems. I was amazed at the technical issues and expertise on the forums there; everyone seemed to be an MIS geek. All the different hacks, mods, versions, nightly Beta updates ... just playing a damn song was like launching the Space Shuttle.:rolleyes:


    Exactly why I find all threats to toss Sonos for Squeeze to be laughable. Despite not having hires support, I challenge anyone to find a system easier to setup and maintain than Sonos.
    Contributor III
    June 4, 2011
    That's unfortunate. The ReadyNAS series seems to be popular in Sonos-land.


    I'd rather have it work every time all the time, but that might just be me.

    Good luck with your Squeezebox.


    thanx but i am back on board! dumped my touch and ordered a zp90. it may not be perfect, but at least i know it works! (at least until i find the perfect streamer, which i am still hoping will be the zp100).
    Contributor III
    June 6, 2011
    thanx but i am back on board! dumped my touch and ordered a zp90. it may not be perfect, but at least i know it works! (at least until i find the perfect streamer, which i am still hoping will be the zp100).

    Man, it sounds like you're doing exactly what I did. Too funny.