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So, i installed qobuzz app on my Hisense android tv. The tv is connected to my sonos arc by hdmi / e-arc. 

 

when i did that, the TV up in my desktop/phone as a qobuz connect device (in addition to tv w/ google cast). and i am able to play on my sonos speaker through the “tv” connect. 

We know that Qobuz cannot connect to Sonos devices directly. (please!)

 

The TV and the qobuz app says hi res music when playing on the Tv app. It plays through the Sonos Arc fine and sounds great. 

 

Now, on the sonos app nothing is displayed as music or anything qobuz or controllable music for that speaker, as its says its gray TV Audio / HDMI / stereo PCM. As if the tv is playing audio. 

 

How confident can i be that Sonos speaker is actually receiving and playing hi res audio from Qobuz android tv? Want to make sure the Sonos speaker is not downsampling it somehow. 

 

I know i can control Qobuz from the Sonos app (its installed) but the Sonos app is not great to use, and it does not connect/sync with the Qobuz apps either. I’d rather use Qobuz. 

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Not sure what the previous poster is trying to say, but to ​@Deanomite , the Sonos plays (within its capabilities) what it is handed through the line in. It doesn’t do any ‘downsampling’, it merely doesn’t play what it can’t understand. It boils down to the Sonos playing whatever the TV is handing it. 

Not sure what the previous poster is trying to say, but to ​@Deanomite , the Sonos plays (within its capabilities) what it is handed through the line in. It doesn’t do any ‘downsampling’, it merely doesn’t play what it can’t understand. It boils down to the Sonos playing whatever the TV is handing it. 

Thanks. My understanding is If the Qobuz track is higher than 24-bit/48kHz, like 24-bit/96kHz or 24-bit/192kHz, Sonos will play it back as a 16-bit/44.1kHz CD-quality file.

The TV qobuz app says hi res files are playing. I’m just wondering what quality i’m actually getting from Sonos from that. 

Playing directly from the Sonos app won’t give me any info either. Guessing it’s at least CD quality?? just wish I knew! 

Not my understanding at all. The way I understand things, Sonos plays what it is handed, it doesn’t ’modify/down-rez’ file types. If you play Qobuz through Sonos, it goes to a server maintained by Qobuz and requests a file to play. It’s up to Qobuz to send the appropriate file type/density.

The challenge you’re facing is we don’t know what your TV is doing to the stream. All I can tell you is the Beam/Arc/Arc Ultra (or any other Sonos speaker, no matter what type) plays what it is handed.

FWIW, anyone can choose to be added or modified in the Sonos ecosystem, per the Sonos partners page.

If you want Qobuz to change the way they present their stream to Sonos, you should probably be petitioning Qobuz, not Sonos. 

Not my understanding at all. The way I understand things, Sonos plays what it is handed, it doesn’t ’modify/down-rez’ file types. If you play Qobuz through Sonos, it goes to a server maintained by Qobuz and requests a file to play. It’s up to Qobuz to send the appropriate file type/density.

The challenge you’re facing is we don’t know what your TV is doing to the stream. All I can tell you is the Beam/Arc/Arc Ultra (or any other Sonos speaker, no matter what type) plays what it is handed.

FWIW, anyone can choose to be added or modified in the Sonos ecosystem, per the Sonos partners page.

If you want Qobuz to change the way they present their stream to Sonos, you should probably be petitioning Qobuz, not Sonos. 

The point here is that there is no visual confirmation from Sonos app of ANY streaming music quality from ANY app, not just Qoboz. The Sonos app does not show the quality of the stream you are receiving, so you will not see a "Hi-Res" badge or other confirmation during playback.

Its all about the delivery method on how to get Hi res music from the source to the speaker, which becomes complicated and convoluted.

Supposedly best results from the Sonos app directly, but that's not ideal or user friendly, right?

While Sonos can play Qobuz hi-res music, the Sonos system's built-in DAC has a limit of 24-bit/48kHz; anything higher will be downsampled to CD-quality (16-bit/44.1kHz) by the speaker itself, not the Qobuz app. This is a Sonos hardware and Software API limitation.

Similarly, even though Tidal offers higher res audio, Sonos caps Tidal at CD-quality (16-bit/44.1 kHz FLAC) audio. I have both Tidal and Qobuz and have confirmed this through their app players audio quality display.

If Apple Music is played over airplay will convert any hi res to an even worse lossy file through any speaker as well.

I would love to be proven wrong on this! but it has been discussed many places.

I just happened to be using the app on android TV and didn't notice any reduction in audio quality (actual display).. But again its unclear what i'm getting from Sonos output.

All in all, i suppose this would be a feature request to Sonos. Please display the audio quality details in the app!

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Interesting. Memory, faulty as it may be, is telling me it used to show up in the ‘about my system’ page, but I’m watching football right now, and it isn’t showing anything. 
 

It does, however, on the ‘now playing screen’, show me I’m receiving multichannel PCM 5.1

I’m not sure why that information isn’t in both places.

I’m not really able to get behind your comment about ‘but that's not ideal or user friendly, right?’, either, but that certainly seems more subjective an assertion, I think.

But I certainly agree that this could be more transparent to the end user. Perhaps a Sonos moderator will pick up on this thread, and forward it to the appropriate people. 

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