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connecting 1990's NAD receiver to Sonos system

  • November 24, 2025
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I’m exploring changes in our home music system. For decades, we’ve used a NAD receiver ( a C740 from around 1998) with two passive Polk speakers, a CD player and a turntable, all in the living room. The NAD has no phono pre-amp so I’ve wired one in and we play our vinyl successfully. 

We’ve recently added a pair of ERA 100’s in a separate room, and finally joined the streaming generation via Tidal. Love it. In a third room, we’ve added a Beam 2 and a mini-sub to our TV set-up. Love those, too. Sometimes I add that room in when listening to music via Tidal. But right now, the old-school stereo isn’t connected to the Sonos gear. As a separate matter, we’d like to swap out the stereo’s pair of Polk SDA Compact bookshelf speakers (which ain’t so compact) for a pair of smaller speakers. The Sonos 5’s come to mind as a means by which the old NAD can connect with the new. Ideally that connection could work both ways.

The NAD has left and right channel pre-amp OUT ports in case a user wants to use a different power amp, I guess. But by default, there are jumpers connecting those OUTS to INS so that the receiver’s own amp can do the work.

 I’d remove the jumpers, then connect the pre-amp OUT’s to a Sonos Five, using an RCA to 3.5mm plug-equipped cable. Am I correct that any source I have connected to the NAD----FM, CD, turntable, tape---can then be played to the Fives? And, if wanted (maybe I wouldn’t), any tone corrections made on the NAD would be effective? I think Sonos claims that the Five would automatically sense a signal at its line-in port and switch to it. Then, when wanting instead to use the Fives with Tidal streaming, we could do that, wirelessly adding in the Sonos- equipped other rooms if we chose.

By replacing the Polks with Sonos Fives, we could avoid something like the Port, which I’ve read may end up processing music data which will be processed again through Sonos speakers anyway.

Is this a workable plan? What are the problems, if any?

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DIY242
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  • November 24, 2025

Good morning Jonbar - I am not so sure that will work as the Fives or Play Fives cannot be driven by an external AMP - there are some folks in the community here that will give you better advice than myself but thought I would share what I have - the Sonos Port was always a little too expensive and I was aware of it’s predecessor, the Sonos Connect which I heard nothing but good news.  I ended up getting one second hand for $120 CAD (I had to make sure it was S2 compatible as they did have 2 versions - the legacy Connect would only work with S1 - SN#’s from my understanding will help you decipher which is which)  - it drives my Arcam A38 FMJ with Silver Series Monitor tower speakers along with Boston Acoustics VR-M60’s - I think it sounds incredible along with all the other Sonos speakers I have.  

Thanks

Derek


Belly M
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  • November 24, 2025

Using the pre-out is no different to using the tape loop, both work at line level. So yes doing this turns the C740 into a preamp. Of course the amplifier section would then be disconnected and serve no purpose. In the past it was quite normal with NAD amps to do this and then add a higher power matching NAD amplifier.


buzz
  • November 24, 2025

You can install the CONNECT as if it is a 3-head cassette deck and “Play” and/or “Record” with the SONOS system through the CONNECT. Note that there will be a 75ms time offset between the NAD output and output from the SONOS system. This will be significant if the SONOS speakers and any NAD driven speakers are in the same physical room, probably not if the speakers are in different rooms. You can “monitor” the CONNECT output and work around the latency.

I don’t recommend connecting the NAD’s preamp output to CONNECT because you’ll have “warring” Volume controls.


  • Author
  • Contributor I
  • November 25, 2025

Thanks to buzz, Belly M, and DIY242. Let me see if I have this right: As DIY242 points out, The Fives are not designed to take an amplified signal above line level. That’s what using the pre-amp OUT from the NAD does for me, so that problem solved. But it creates potential conflict with volume (and tone control) settings on the Fives, as Buzz observes. Good point. Using a tape OUT on the NAD would be equal signal quality but without the conflict. And yes, the NAD’s power amp just sits there doing nothing. I can live with that. 

What I’m still perplexed about is: why involve either a Port or a Connect at all? If the Fives can process a signal from a line-level analog CD player, phono-amp-equipped turntable, or tape deck, why wouldn’t it be able to process the line-level signal from the NAD tape OUT?

As to the 75ms delay, it could be an issue, because our house is small and all three areas are audible to each other. But doesn’t the delay happen only at the wired Five, where it’s processing the signal from the NAD? Wouldn’t that receiving Five broadcast via WiFi to the other Five, the Era 100’s, and the Beam/Mini-sub speaker without the delay? 

I’ve probably mis-understood something fundamental here. Feel free to tell me what I’ve got wrong.


Stanley_4
  • Lead Maestro
  • November 25, 2025

The tape out to any Sonos device with a line in will work.

There is no avoiding the line in delay but to make that clear that delay is from the original source audio. Once in the Sonos system all audio is in sync. The exception being home theater products that bypass the delay for internal speakers and use a special 5 gHz link to bypass it for surrounds. Grouped Rooms will see the delay.


AjTrek1
  • November 25, 2025

My suggestion is to put the NAD in moth balls and go with something like this:

  • Two Fives
  • Pre-Amp for Turn table
  • Multi-Port RCA Switch similar to what is shown in the link
  • RCA to RCA cables x as many are required per component to connect to Multi-Port Switch
  • 1 RCA to 3.5mm cable from Multi-Port Switch to Sonos Five

Using a Multi Port Switch is no different than selecting a source on the NAD. The setup below will better integrate into Sonos for music (local and streaming). The Fives can be grouped with other Sonos for music with no delay. Grouping to a Sonos soundbar for TV audio will cause a 75ms delay.

 


Stanley_4
  • Lead Maestro
  • November 25, 2025

I did the half-way thing as I had two excellent AVR setups that provided far superior sound to Sonos, each easily triple the cost of course, not to mention the inconveniences. 

Didn't take long before the AVRs were gone and I had a full Sonos setup.

Sure Sonos won't break the windows but do I really want to go there?


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  • Contributor I
  • November 25, 2025

So, it appears that the delay is unavoidable. It wouldn’t matter, so long as all the Sonos speakers are in sync after Sonos has 75ms to process the signal once from my outside-Sonos source, the NAD.  I forsee often listening to the Fives by themselves, without adding the other areas.  I’d love to be able to add those areas at will, though.

AjTrek1 raises a question for me when saying “...the Fives can be grouped with other Sonos for music with no delay.” Does this mean grouping would be required? I have two existing “groups” which I call Sun Room (a stereo pair of Era100’s) and East room (a Beam v2 paired with a Mini-Sub). The Fives would ideally become a stereo pair in the West Room. Would I have to add the Fives to either / both of the others to avoid a new delay? Really hoping not, but if so, it could be okay so long as the Fives could sync delay-free with the other two rooms when streaming from Tidal, and therefore not using one Five’s line-in port…

I would sort of regret giving up the ability to control volume from the NAD receiver, the price of using its line-level Tape OUT ports. Oh well. At least I can listen to FM via its tuner. Stanley_4, I assume that you actually did what I hope to do with your old receiver, yes? Has anyone else?

I really like the diagram AjTrek1 added to this conversation. I’d just add a good FM tuner to it if I removed the NAD (sniff). 

I appreciate the friendly and careful thought everyone has given to this concept!


Airgetlam
  • November 25, 2025

There’s several ‘tuners’ already available as part of the Sonos software. Most radio stations have streaming components, they’re just on seemingly random services. 


Stanley_4
  • Lead Maestro
  • November 25, 2025

You say you have two Groups... Then you list speakers that are not in a Group.

A Pair is not a group, a speaker and Sub are not a group.

A Group is two or more Rooms joined together to play the same audio.

If you try to play the same source on two Rooms that are not Grouped Sonos makes no promises as to audio sync as they are not involved in it at that point, only the music source.

Gotta use the right words or folks get confused.

https://en.community.sonos.com/tutorials%2Dand%2Dhow%2Dto%2Ds%2D229149/sonos%2Dterminology%2D6905527

 


AjTrek1
  • November 26, 2025

As ​@Stanley_4 indicated you are incorrectly using the term Group. In fact you are calling Rooms Groups which is completely incorrect. Your current Sonos setup per your post consists of:

  • “I have two existing “groups” which I call Sun Room (a stereo pair of Era100’s) and East room (a Beam v2 paired with a Mini-Sub)”

Those are not Groups...they are Rooms 

  • Sun Room
  • East Room

If you combined them to play the same audio via the app which Sonos calls Grouping together they would form One (1) Group. Groups don’t have be named unless you want to make Sun Room and East Room a permanent Grouping. However, for now you have no Groups….only Rooms.

I inserted the diagram with Fives as a replacement for the NAD. As ​@Airgetlam said you can stream free Radio stations or subscribe to any station shown here. Some allow direct control of Sonos.

If you can’t part with the NAD; but want to bring it into Sonos, your best option is to buy a Port. The Port allows you to send whatever source you like from the NAD to any Sonos speaker (Room).

Yes, speakers wired to the NAD will be out of sync. You may also have volume control issues. However, that’s the price of admission to keep the NAD in the fold with Sonos.

Hope this answers your questions as there are really no additional legitimate options. Unless you want to create a SonoStien😱