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I have researched and researched, but nothing matches my situation or I don’t understand enough. I just bought a Bluesound Node thinking it could do what I want, but it doesn’t apparently, so now I am wondering if the Sono Port will allow this. 

 

I love my wired speakers, I have a Rega 3 turntable, I have a decent Marantz receiver with audio out. If I connect the audio out on my receiver to the Port, can I listen to my wired speakers AND also stream the vinyl to my soundbar/Move ...etc via wireless? 

The Node can not do this and I am still not sure if it could if I had a bluesound wireless speaker, the answers are all over the place. Can the Port “see” my other sonos devices and stream to them wirelessly whatever is playing on my receiver?

Thank you!!  

You would connect an analog output from the receiver to PORT’s Line-In. Any combination of SONOS players on the network can play the Line-In. 


There may be a noticeable 75ms delay of sound between the speakers wired to your Marantz and the sound gong to the Sonos speakers; if in the same room. If not then the delay should not be a problem.


The Node can not do this and I am still not sure if it could if I had a bluesound wireless speaker, the answers are all over the place. Can the Port “see” my other sonos devices and stream to them wirelessly whatever is playing on my receiver?

Hi @eellerto, both the Bluesound Node and the Sonos Port have analog audio input and output … they are quite similar in that regard. You can connect the audio output from your Marantz receiver to the “audio in” of the Node (the “line in” of the Port) and that music can play on any Bluesound (Sonos) device.


The line-in on the port can be sent to any other Sonos speakers.

If the Marantz has an active line level out (such as a zone 2/B line out, a recording line out) and can output to the main speakers at the same time, then yes.

Marantz Line out → Port line in → other sonos speakers will work.

There is a potential issue, which is the Port will add a delay, so anything from the Sonos speakers will be ~75ms (i think) behind the speakers connected to the Marantz. If the rooms are isolated from each other and you can’t hear the Marantz and Sonos speakers at the same time, likely a non-issue. If you can hear both it will likely be noticeable and sound odd.

When I briefly used a TT I plugged it into a port so the TT was in a more convenient place without having to run long cables. The port didn’t have it’s output connected to anything.


@press250 

I think a difference between using the Bluesound Node and Sonos is the Sonos Autoplay. I used to have Line-In Autoplay linked to a different Sonos speaker, so the port line in would always output on a different speaker without needing to be manually grouped with the port.

With the Node, I think it would need to be grouped with the other bluesound speaker you want to play on and if you changed the groups, would need re-grouping again.

There is a bluesound Hub which is an 5 input analogue/digital/phono → bluesound network and has no playback output of it’s own. It appears as a line in source on any bluesound player/speaker on the network, can stream analogue and digital simultaneously and is cheaper than a new node to use as a gateway.


The Node can not do this and I am still not sure if it could if I had a bluesound wireless speaker, the answers are all over the place. Can the Port “see” my other sonos devices and stream to them wirelessly whatever is playing on my receiver?

Hi @eellerto, both the Bluesound Node and the Sonos Port have analog audio input and output … they are quite similar in that regard. You can connect the audio output from your Marantz receiver to the “audio in” of the Node (the “line in” of the Port) and that music can play on any Bluesound (Sonos) device.

I tried this, but the Bluesound Node does not “see” any sonos speakers. They do not show up as a “player” in the app, therefore I can not stream from the Node in that direction. I can stream with the Node only if I do it directly from the streaming apps (spotify app or apple music app) and I have to use airplay to see and connect to all my sonos speakers and the node. Spotify Connect doesn’t even work, it makes me pick my sonos group OR the Node, but not both and whatever protocol the Node uses, it can not even recognize my sonos speakers as far as I can tell. This is really frustrating! If you know a way to actually stream from the Node to Sonos speakers, please let me know! But on my BluOS app, the only “player” it recognizes is the Node. 


@press250

I think a difference between using the Bluesound Node and Sonos is the Sonos Autoplay. I used to have Line-In Autoplay linked to a different Sonos speaker, so the port line in would always output on a different speaker without needing to be manually grouped with the port.

With the Node, I think it would need to be grouped with the other bluesound speaker you want to play on and if you changed the groups, would need re-grouping again.

There is a bluesound Hub which is an 5 input analogue/digital/phono → bluesound network and has no playback output of it’s own. It appears as a line in source on any bluesound player/speaker on the network, can stream analogue and digital simultaneously and is cheaper than a new node to use as a gateway.

I looked into that, too, but then i would have to start buying Bluesound speakers, I was hoping to keep using my existing Sonos speakers for now. 


The line-in on the port can be sent to any other Sonos speakers.

If the Marantz has an active line level out (such as a zone 2/B line out, a recording line out) and can output to the main speakers at the same time, then yes.

Marantz Line out → Port line in → other sonos speakers will work.

There is a potential issue, which is the Port will add a delay, so anything from the Sonos speakers will be ~75ms (i think) behind the speakers connected to the Marantz. If the rooms are isolated from each other and you can’t hear the Marantz and Sonos speakers at the same time, likely a non-issue. If you can hear both it will likely be noticeable and sound odd.

When I briefly used a TT I plugged it into a port so the TT was in a more convenient place without having to run long cables. The port didn’t have it’s output connected to anything.

This sounds promising (except the delay). I just wonder what the analog input would look like on the Sonos app as in, would it show up as “line-in” on the app so that I could stream it to other speakers.. hmm.


Hi @eellerto, Blusound and Sonos similar wireless audio systems that do not work with each other. You might be able to use Airplay 2 to drive your Sonos speakers from the Blusound Node, but practically speaking you’re better off going “All Sonos” or “All Blusound”.


The line-in on the port can be sent to any other Sonos speakers.

If the Marantz has an active line level out (such as a zone 2/B line out, a recording line out) and can output to the main speakers at the same time, then yes.

Marantz Line out → Port line in → other sonos speakers will work.

There is a potential issue, which is the Port will add a delay, so anything from the Sonos speakers will be ~75ms (i think) behind the speakers connected to the Marantz. If the rooms are isolated from each other and you can’t hear the Marantz and Sonos speakers at the same time, likely a non-issue. If you can hear both it will likely be noticeable and sound odd.

When I briefly used a TT I plugged it into a port so the TT was in a more convenient place without having to run long cables. The port didn’t have it’s output connected to anything.

This sounds promising (except the delay). I just wonder what the analog input would look like on the Sonos app as in, would it show up as “line-in” on the app so that I could stream it to other speakers.. hmm.

In the Sonos app the port appears as a player in a room, the same way any other sonos device does.

You can group it with any other sonos device and if you send audio to it’s line-in it will play on every device in the group.

By default out of the box, line-in goes to the Port. As a convenience, in the Port device settings I changed the Line-In autoplay to send to a different speaker by default. That way when playing a record it automatically sent it to the speaker I mainly used without me having to do anything. I was still free to use the app to group the port with different speakers if I wanted the music somewhere else instead.


Best option here would be to get a standalone phono pre-amp, set up as rega → pre → port → marantz. This way you wouldn’t have the latency issue and you could use your port for both turntable and wireless audio through your amp in sync with your other Sonos speakers.


Thanks for all the insight. I have decided to send back the Bluesound Node and get the Port. I hate being held to the Sonos system as Bluesound seems to have superior sound and I am not super bowled over with Sonos in general, but looks like I have to stay here for now. I still like the way my 30+year old Tannoy M20 Gold speakers sound compared to the best Sonos speaker!


Best option here would be to get a standalone phono pre-amp, set up as rega → pre → port → marantz. This way you wouldn’t have the latency issue and you could use your port for both turntable and wireless audio through your amp in sync with your other Sonos speakers.

Good to know. I’ll add that to my Christmas list 🙂 I do have an external phonostage, a pretty fancy once, that may work. But it’s from the UK and needs to have the voltage converted, making it an electricity sink.