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Trending Lyricist I
July 28, 2022
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Help on improving my home setup - (Omada wifi / another boost?)

I have recently changed our home Wifi to TP Link Omada as our existing Wifi didnt reach around the home, I am planning on adding some managed switches too which I think will help with our sonos setup in the long run.

 

I currently have a number of devices hard wired (wifi off), a boost and some on wifi (should be sonosnet)

 

We have had performance issues on and off over the years and hard wiring some of the sonos appears to have fixed it, the office and nursery speakers are hard wired as they are the furthest from the Boost. Would an additional boost help?

 

Since changed to Omada APs, our devices connected by WiFi arent able to play anything, the wired devices are still functioning, these are currently connected to dumb switches.

 

Our network matrix is as below:

 

 

Any advice, suggestions are appreciated. 

I plan to move the location of the boost again as a first port of call. Does anyone use TP Link Omada and know the best settings to use?

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John BAnswer
August 1, 2022

When you can, turn the whole baby alarm system off for a few minutes and refresh the matrix.

Edit: just seen your question about this!

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ratty
August 1, 2022

Remove the Omada WiFi credentials in the Sonos App network settings (they’re not needed when running all on SonosNet) and try to set a SonosNet channel that is not in use by the Omada network.

There appears to be a Roam.

Trending Lyricist I
August 1, 2022

Like many such home solutions Sonos depends on there being a single flat broadcast subnet. No subnetting, no L2 client isolation and no blocks on device discovery. It’s not unusual to run into problems on enterprise grade networks, whether at home or in the workplace.

If re-enabling the radios causes loops then the switch(es) on the paths between the wired units are most probably just blocking STP BPDUs. 

With only Boost wired, what does the matrix look like?

As for alternative WiFi meshes, most home grade systems should be fine at least with the Sonos system in SonosNet mode as all the WiFi needs to do is carry controller traffic. Attempting to operate the entire system in WiFi-only (“wireless”) mode, i.e. without Boost and without any wired nodes at all, could have mixed results. It’s worth a try, if the Omada first gets swapped out for something more friendly, such as Deco, Orbi, etc.

 

If I change setup, Deco is the one I am contemplating most. I like with Omada that I can see more info but I guess I don’t really need to see granular detail if everything just works! And my family would be much happier!

 

I have now set it so only my Boost is wired, tested the wireless devices and they are working well. I have set STP globally on my switches for now rather than on each port, with a lower priority that the Sonos default and things seem happier… Time will tell!

 

The latest matrix is:

 

 

I think moving the Boost may be the next step to improve things.

Ken_Griffiths
August 1, 2022

Remove the Omada WiFi credentials in the Sonos App network settings (they’re not needed when running all on SonosNet) and try to set a SonosNet channel that is not in use by the Omada network.

There appears to be a Roam.

Oh yes, missed that (Thanks @ratty) - in that case the WiFi credentials will need to remain in the Sonos App’s network settings.

Trending Lyricist I
August 1, 2022

Remove the Omada WiFi credentials in the Sonos App network settings (they’re not needed when running all on SonosNet) and try to set a SonosNet channel that is not in use by the Omada network.

There appears to be a Roam.

There is a roam

Ken_Griffiths
August 1, 2022
 

 

I think moving the Boost may be the next step to improve things.

There is still a lot of interference, not only around the Boost, but also surrounding the other devices shown as red on left hand column of the matrix, but I would certainly let things settle for at least 20-30 minutes and keep any Sonos devices at least a metre away from other wireless (and Bluetooth) devices - then perhaps look at changing the SonosNet channel - but always allow time for things to settle down before making any change.

This image may assist you too, as it shows the zigbee channels that can sometimes interfere with 2.4Ghz non-overlapping WiFi channels:

 

 

ratty
August 1, 2022

The latest matrix is:

not happy.

Two apparently wired devices (Nursery and Lounge) still have no wireless content. And there are two root bridges, suggesting fragmented spanning trees. And Office doesn’t seem to have any STP status either. It looks like the system’s broken in two.

Trending Lyricist I
August 1, 2022
 

 

I think moving the Boost may be the next step to improve things.

There is still a lot of interference, not only around the Boost, but also surrounding the other devices shown as red on left hand column of the matrix, but I would certainly let things settle for at least 20-30 minutes and keep any Sonos devices at least a metre away from other wireless (and Bluetooth) devices - then perhaps look at changing the SonosNet channel - but always allow time for things to settle down before making any change.

This image may assist you too, as it shows the zigbee channels that can sometimes interfere with 2.4Ghz channels:

 

 

That graphic is useful, and something I wasn’t aware of! I have changed the settings of my Zigbee Hub and Sonosnet and will see if this makes any difference (when my Sonos speakers are back online as they have since disappeared...)

ratty
August 1, 2022

 they have since disappeared...)

See my post.

August 1, 2022

Have you refreshed the matrix?  It won’t update unless you come out and go in again (ie re-click the Network Matrix link).  Nursery was originally wired but you have said it no longer is, so I wonder if this is really the current position?

Trending Lyricist I
August 1, 2022

Now only the boost is wired…

What does Office being green mean? Does this mean connected to Boost but nothing else connected via it?