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Trending Lyricist I
September 29, 2018

Combined kitchen/living room plan

Hi all - we’re doing a renovation and have an open combined kitchen/living room (roughly 600 square feet). We’re planning on putting in ceiling speakers but are unsure about the configuration (4 in living room, 2 in kitchen?) and how they would be wired to a Sonos receiver in a closet. Would all 6 go the same receiver? Are there options to only have 4 living room on at once? And if we add a TV to the set up is there a way to connect the TV to the ceiling speakers wirelessly through the Sonos receiver? Other options if the TV and receiver are in different parts of the room? Thanks!
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buzz
Grand Maestro
October 27, 2018
Thanks all. If we get a 4K Samsung TV, does everyone think a Beam or Soundbar are needed? I've heard the sounds from these units are pretty good. If we used the TV audio as the anchor I'm assuming we could use the Sonos Amp with ceiling speakers as surround?

No, CONNECT:AMP can be used to drive surrounds only in conjunction with PLAYBAR, PLAYBASE, or BEAM.

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One way to approach TV sound capability is to look at the physical size of speakers that you think sound good. There are some laws of physics that discourage smaller speakers from delivering that good sound. Calculate the size of speaker that could be stuffed inside that TV. How does this compare to the size of your favorite speakers?

All observers I have encountered feel that BEAM is a step up from TV sound.

In the end, goodness of sound is always in the ears of the listener. Only you know what sounds best (to you). Listeners I respect may or may not like speakers that I like, but we agree that we are all "right".
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
October 28, 2018
One way to approach TV sound capability is to look at the physical size of speakers that you think sound good. There are some laws of physics that discourage smaller speakers from delivering that good sound. Calculate the size of speaker that could be stuffed inside that TV. How does this compare to the size of your favorite speakers?

Laws of physics are of course secondary to spousal approval. No speaker sounds good from the dog house. 🙂
AjTrek1
October 28, 2018
Thanks all. If we get a 4K Samsung TV, does everyone think a Beam or Soundbar are needed? I've heard the sounds from these units are pretty good. If we used the TV audio as the anchor I'm assuming we could use the Sonos Amp with ceiling speakers as surround?

Hi Maki

I'm going to proceed on the premise that the potion of your question in BOLD was referring to audio after it was routed through a Beam or Playbar? In that case the use of the soon to be released Songs Amp the answer is YES.

Click the link for my opinion of Beam vs Playbar/Playbase for vocals/speech in an open space: https://en.community.sonos.com/wireless-speakers-228992/beam-vs-playbar-playbase-my-opinion-6814520

In the end it will be your ears that will have to determine which sounds better either the Beam or Playbar in your situation. The surrounds don't figure into the equation as a major player when evaulating the Beam or Playbar for general vocals/speech. I recommend listening to both with out the surrounds in the first instance. Since you can purchase both and return the one you don't want (via most retailers_just check the return policy) auditioning both should be a simple task. Good Luck.

Cheers!
Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
makiAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
October 31, 2018
Many apologies if this is repetitive but I seem to be reading conflicting things online.

If we have a Sonos Beam in one location by the TV, will we be able to have rear surround powered by Sonos:Amp completely wirelessly that will not result in noticeable sound delay? Our ceiling speaker wire is now running to a closet where Sonos:Amp will live once available. Just want to be sure this set up will work. Thanks!
AjTrek1
October 31, 2018
Many apologies if this is repetitive but I seem to be reading conflicting things online.



Hi maki

Stop reading the "fake" internet ;);) LOL

As long as the Beam is connected to your TV properly (as has been already discussed) the Sonos Amp with 3rd party rear speakers can be bonded to the Beam as surrounds in a similar fashion as if they were branded Sonos speakers and there will be no delay. A delay could possibly come into play if the Sonos Amp were used to drive 3rd party speakers as a separate room (not bonded as surrounds) to which you were sending TV audio.

Cheers!
Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
makiAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
October 31, 2018
Thanks you very much for the clarity!
makiAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
January 2, 2019
Hi all - this set up has been working well for music though one issue we’re having is that there is choppy audio coming from the ceiling speakers that are connected to the Connect:amp, which is connected wirelessly to the network and grouped with the Beam. This only happens when watching TV and the audio from the Beam itself seems to be fine. Also, there are no issues with the system when streaming music. Anyone know of any remedies for this problem?
AjTrek1
January 2, 2019
Hi maki

You have several options...

Since you say that when playing music everything is fine when using the ceiling speakers; then I'd say there is no need to check the wiring, however you might do so just to be sure.

Try these steps one at a time
1. Wire the Beam to your router if possible
2. Wire the Connect: Amp to the router if possible
3. Wire both the Beam and Connect:Amp to the router if possible

If none of the above resolve your issue then I suggest you submit a diagnostic to Sonos and post the Reference ID in this forum.

Cheers!
Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.