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Collaborator II
August 14, 2017
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WMA Lossless transcoding options?

  • August 14, 2017
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I'm aware that Sonos doesn't natively support WMA lossless, and due to processing power and/or licensing issues probably never will. However, I own a large-ish collection in that format (about 60% of a library of around 12,000 songs, the remainder are lossy from my wife's collection), and several media players whose preferred format is WMA lossless, including the three rooms where I have sufficient quality amplification and speakers for the difference to be noticeable.

I'm interested in using the Sonos Connect (probably a few of them) to feed my Niles Auriel multi-room system, and in the rooms this will be used for largely don't matter if I'm using 320 kbps MP3 or a lossless format. So, I'm wondering if there's a method of transcoding on the fly and feeding it to Sonos, or would using Sonos and keeping WMA lossless for other locations mean that I'd have to maintain two separate libraries?

I have plenty of compute power available in various servers to do an on the fly transcode, as well as plenty of disk space, but maintaining two separate libraries in sync with each other, including playlists and such, would seem problematic at best. Is there a better way? Sonos seems such a better and less expensive choice than using an Autonomic Mirage for my needs, since I basically need a dumb player with decent DAC, and not a full-up music server with media management, as I have that already. For instance, will Sonos simply talk to a LMS that can do the transcode?

Thanks in advance for the help!
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    Insertusernamehere
    August 19, 2017
    The SB Touch does do it natively, but those things seem to have risen in price, yet are still at newest 5 years old? Not ideal when the WAF is on the line. 🙂 Picoreplayer/hifiberry look interesting, but support/things working is my concern there ... plus stuffing an RPI into a very electrically noisy space. LMS2UPNP plus a Sonos seems likely the best as both are still reasonably well supported for now.

    I know eventually I'll do the massive transcode over to FLAC or similar, but with so many things stuck on WMA Lossless, this is a bit of a bridge for 4-5 years.


    I grabbed a samle WMA lossless file from http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/lossless/ and successfully played it through LMS to a Connect. LMS running on Fedora, didn't do anything special to get this working, just worked. Doesn't mean it will play out the same for you but hope it does.

    None of these solutions are "well supported". The risk with the Connect is that Sonos could change their firmware and it may stop working with LMS. IMO you are mistaken about the Picoreplayer - most regard it as the best LMS client. You can get a Touch for under $150 on ebay. WAF should be about the same no matter what you use as the squeezebox control software works the same with every box.

    How about a new car radio? 🙂 Ditch WMA lossless and you can get whatever you want without worry. LOL
    jec6613Author
    Collaborator II
    August 19, 2017
    How about a new car radio? 🙂 Ditch WMA lossless and you can get whatever you want without worry. LOLNew car radio, two new receivers (minimum entry of about $700 for each of those given the speaker size), new TV recording system/media management system on four TVs ... it's a few thousand at best, within the price range of one of the big media servers, or even just removing Niles entirely. For now, I'm just going to slowly replace 1-2 components/year as I've been doing for years (I usually replace everything that runs software on a rolling 10 year cycle), then when the last one is done I'll do the convert.

    The WAF I'm concerned about is that throwing old hardware that had a limited shelf life to begin with at a system, dependent on a company that axed their products years ago, isn't likely to lead to reliability. A RPi is at least looking to be cheap, so there's that. I may just do a Sonos Connect for streaming media where it really excels, and RPi for the music library, and separate them, then just run the RPi somewhere less electrically noisy and bring in the audio feed over some good shielded cables (Bluejeans or similar).