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March 31, 2019

What to replace Sonos with

I want to replace my Sonos system
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    April 2, 2019
    Yes that is great news.

    Much of what I know has been learned from @ratty! Although he remains in a league of his own, especially on more general networking matters.

    Well done to you for being open to have another go. When Sonos doesn't work reliably, it is nearly always network-related, occasionally a Sonos hardware fault, and only once in a blue moon a genuine, generic bug in Sonos.

    I hope you enjoy your Sonos system without problems for a long time to come - there is a very good chance you will.
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    revdvAuthor
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    April 2, 2019
    I want to replace my Sonos system

    Not any more! Long may it continue to be as good as it is now! I have ordered a Boost and then the attic player can go back to its own place.

    All is still good, and the other phone is now using SonosNet too - but not without difficulty! In the end I had to change channels from 11 to 1, then they both picked up, having dis-enabled and re-enabled SonosNet on both of them several times and restarted the phones, turned wifi off and on etc....

    The great thing about using SonosNet for the phones is that the signal is so much stronger everywhere in the house. But you knew that anyway.

    thanks again
    Sonos Roam SL, Play:1s, Play:5, Connect, Connect Amps, Boost. Arcam AVR5. Synology Diskstation. Harmony Ultimate "one remote to rule them all"
    ratty
    April 2, 2019
    It will depend on the phone, but typically when using a SonosNet connection it ought to roam between Sonos nodes. Sometimes however it may lazily stick with a distant one for a time before flipping over. Simply toggling WiFi off and on again should shake the phone out of its complacency.
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    revdvAuthor
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    April 7, 2019
    Well, thanks again to all who helped (despite my unhelpful start...)
    Update:
    Boost arrived Friday, got that plugged in and sorted, put attic Play:5 back up in the attic.
    Everything is rock solid, wifi with our two android phones is full signal pretty much everywhere (being on SonosNet, rather than wifi from the router trying to penetrate 45cm stone walls) and there is no hanging, no failure to find music, no "unable to play...". Everything is behaving itself perfectly.

    I attach a network matrix fyi.

    many thanks again

    Dick
    Sonos Roam SL, Play:1s, Play:5, Connect, Connect Amps, Boost. Arcam AVR5. Synology Diskstation. Harmony Ultimate "one remote to rule them all"
    ratty
    April 7, 2019
    The matrix looks okay. The orange connections of Bedroom and Dining Room are a bit borderline. However they aren't cause for concern as those nodes have alternative, 2-hop, connections available back to the root Boost if needed. In a few days time you might find that the matrix looks a bit different if the topology gets recomputed. Basically SonosNet will sort itself out either way.
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    revdvAuthor
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    April 7, 2019
    thanks ratty!
    It's still difficult, though, to get the android phones both to hook to the sonosnet. Have to make them jump!
    Sonos Roam SL, Play:1s, Play:5, Connect, Connect Amps, Boost. Arcam AVR5. Synology Diskstation. Harmony Ultimate "one remote to rule them all"
    ratty
    April 7, 2019
    How do you mean? You'd typically need to manually select the SonosNet SSID anyway, unless of course the other WiFis were out of range or 'forgotten'.

    If the phone's already on SonosNet but is reluctant to 'roam' onto a nearer, stronger, signal that's because of the phone.
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    revdvAuthor
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    April 7, 2019
    How do you mean? You'd typically need to manually select the SonosNet SSID anyway, unless of course the other WiFis were out of range or 'forgotten'.

    If the phone's already on SonosNet but is reluctant to 'roam' onto a nearer, stronger, signal that's because of the phone.


    When installing the Boost, it seemed that we needed to go back to router wifi to get things organised. One phone then hooked to SonosNet OK, but the other couldn't even see the SonosNet SSID until I changed SonosNet channel. Even then (if I remember correctly) I had to tell the phone not to use SonosNet and then to use it again. Then forget the local wifi to use the SonosNet. Having got there, tho' the signal is excellent, as I said.
    Sonos Roam SL, Play:1s, Play:5, Connect, Connect Amps, Boost. Arcam AVR5. Synology Diskstation. Harmony Ultimate "one remote to rule them all"
    ratty
    April 7, 2019
    Ah, yes, well, there could be circumstances when adding the wired Boost that you'd need an 'out of band' connection to the router. Depending on SonosNet at the point where you're actually replacing the foundation to SonosNet could be a bit precarious...

    As for the phone's not seeing SonosNet initially, there could simply be something specific about the way that phone reacts to hidden SSIDs.