Switching from Squeezebox to Sonos

Annoying, can’t edit my post above for the second time.  So this page has thrown away all that I’d entered!  That aside…

So the Nest Hub is also touchscreen, handy! And you can turn off the mic. :-)

And whilst on a rapidly aging OS it’s no worse than my Lenovo Tab3’s that run a Kodi slideshow (again from pictures on the same server as my music library).  I think the Tab3’s are Android 8!

So I could run the ‘Squeezer’ Android app on the Nest Hub for my music and Kodi for a slideshow on the same device?.  Nice if so. [edit] Ah no the Squeezer app is not a player for the device it’s installed on, only a remote for other Players.  So is there something that makes the Nest Hub ‘look’ like a Squeezebox Player?

Can I also control the Sonos Beam from the Android ‘Squeezer’ app as if the Beam were a ‘Player’ as far as LMS is concerned??

See above for details about squeezer and Roams. 

The nest hub uses chromecast so using it as a Squeezebox player will only show the display screen and sound.  You'd still have to control it via squeezer.  The touch screen features only work when it's used as a Google device.

Here's a screenshot of a Nest Hub playing a track from Tidal (via LMS) :  I don't have a local music library setup at the moment. 

And a screenshot of the same playing on a Roam:

And same playing via Sonos S2 app

So the Nest Hub is just displaying now playing and outputting the audio, but control of it still has to come via the Squeezer App on my phone?  I know nothing of Chromecast so my guess is that this service makes the Nest Hub look like a Player to the Squeezer app?

Soooo, how would I cancel an Alarm, if the Nest Hub is just a dumb ‘Player’?

Signing off now for a while, so Happy New Year to everyone!

That's it.    Thinking it over, maybe the Roams are a better choice.  The sound is good given their small size and they're less intrusive than the Nest.  With Roams you'd have the best of 2 worlds (sonos plus LMS).   These smart speakers are good but can easily do their own thing which causes frustration.  I use a cheap Google mini speaker as an alarm and not much else.

I should check out the squeezer app - I used it a few times years ago.

Roam as seen via Squeezer:

Soooo, how would I cancel an Alarm, if the Nest Hub is just a dumb ‘Player’?

Guess you'd have to use Squeezer... I've never messed with alarms in LMS. Sorry. 

If I may barge in with a question in what looks to be a interesting discussion:

I am presently very well served by Echo Show devices wired to the line in jacks on my Sonos kit, that allow me to bypass the Sonos controller app, and allow album art to be seen for all that is playing, whether on a single Echo or on all that are grouped together. The problem I am anticipating is when any Echo need to be replaced, because none of the current line up have a line out - the Google devices never had these.

Is there a way to get these devices to play as mine do now, via Sonos, but without a wired connection between line level jacks? 

Note that the Sonos Alexa integration cannot be used, it is not available in India. And even if it was, it would not show album art, so I would not use it anyway.

PS: Using a third party application hosted on a Raspberry, I am also able to listen to my ripped music files in all formats, with album art, via the Echo Shows, and the solution would have to address this as well. Ideally...

Do you mean you want to play Sonos content on the Shows? 

If so, then I'm afraid there's no way. 

No; presently the Show content plays on Sonos just fine via line level wired connections. How do I get this to work when I need to get the currently featured Shows ( which I will do only if my present Show hardware fails) that do not have audio out jacks, to play on Sonos, is an anticipated problem. 

And why Google from the beginning, and the latest generation of Show hardware, denies users a way to get better sound quality from them via wired downstream third party speakers, is an irritating mystery… as irritating as the absence of line in jacks on Sonos Play 1 units.

I can only think of one way to maybe achieve this.   You'd need to attach a Bluetooth receiver to the Sonos device - then switch Echo to use the bluetooth 'speaker' (receiver).   Would that work.?