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Prominent Collaborator I
June 30, 2020

Don't have eARC? Get Atmos w/ HD Fury "Arcana" - Pre-orders now LIVE!

  • June 30, 2020
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Pre-orders available now! https://www.hdfury.com/product/4k-arcana-18gbps/

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FROM HD FURY SITE: 

No eARC TV ? No problem! And no more lip sync issues for eARC TV owners!
WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over Dolby TrueHD from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system.
Perfect solution for SONOS ARC/BOSE 500/BOSE 700 and ANY eARC or ARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.

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I’ve been talking a lot about this in another thread, but now it’s ready to order. If you love your Arc but aren’t getting Atmos / TrueHD for whatever reason (no eARC TV, Apple TV doesn’t like HDMI-ARC, regular HDMI-ARC can’t pass TrueHD, etc.), Arcana is what you need. In a nutshell, it tricks your Sonos Arc into thinking it’s connected to an eARC TV giving you full access to all the audio formats your source(s) can output. 

I don’t work for them - I’m just excited to unlock the potential of my Sonos Arc and don’t want to buy another new TV anytime soon. They need 400 orders in order to go into production, and if they hit 800 pre-orders they’re planning on adding additional functionality (CEC control and the ability to also get audio from the TV’s built-in apps). 

Plus, you can save a few bucks by pre-ordering now. 

If you want Atmos from an external device but your TV is holding you back, do us all a favor and go order an Arcana now.

Sales pitch over. ;-) 

 

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Prominent Collaborator I
September 14, 2020

Only one know issue at the time, as the CEC/ARC functionality on some Vizio TVs isn’t working.  This DOES NOT mean you can’t use Arcana with your Vizio TV, @Airgetlam.  It means that CEC controls between Arc and TV won’t work, so you won’t be able to use the TV remote to control volume via CEC control (use direct IR) or use voice commands to turn on/off the TV.   The ARC part of this essentially means you won’t be able to use your TV internal smart apps.

As the owner of a Vizio E70-F3, I can confirm this. It isn’t that CEC DOESN’T work though Arcana (I was able to turn on / turn off / control volume via CEC with the Arcana attached), but rather that having CEC enabled seems to cause random video/audio blackouts (for me, at least). Ever since I disabled CEC on the TV and my sources, everything has been rock solid. But I already had a Harmony Hub to control everything so this hasn’t been an issue for me, personally, at all. 

FYI. 

Arc + Sub 3 + One SLs = Awesome and Loving It!
Airgetlam
September 14, 2020

Thanks for the heads up Danny...but I’m not a huge fan of the whole *censored* CEC spec, which seems to have too much latitude in it that allows each device manufacturer to make enough modifications to mess it up, so I just use the Harmony software to control each device individually, without relying on CEC to carry the commands.

 

Bruce
melvimbe
September 14, 2020

Thanks for the heads up Danny...but I’m not a huge fan of the whole *censored* CEC spec, which seems to have too much latitude in it that allows each device manufacturer to make enough modifications to mess it up, so I just use the Harmony software to control each device individually, without relying on CEC to carry the commands.

 

 

I know, but I just wanted it to be clear. Also knew that you prefer your ATV4K over internal apps, so none of this should matter for your setup.

Danny
melvimbe
September 14, 2020

2- it wasn't clear to me if the Arcana needs a separate power supply, or if can it draw power from the signal source (or say the tv's usb port). If it needs external power is there an on/off switch? What happens if you turn it off or unplug it- will signal still travel across?

 

Just asked on your behalf.  Arcana requires 5V2A, so if your TV can provide that, should be fine.  My understanding is that most TVs will.

3- I only need to link in my Xbox One X, no other devices. So if I run the X1X out to Arcana, and then the Arcana out to Sonos ARC and TV, will my TV remote still control the Sonos volume, or will i need to control the volume with the Sonos app? It's not clear to me from the product description whether this feature has been enabled.

This should still work, with the exception of Vizia TVs talked about already.  Your TV remote controls the Sonos Arc either by CEC commands, which Arcana will still pass through, or because it’s sending IR commands directly to the Arc, which will not be effected at all by adding Arcana.

 

Sorry, can’t answer the first question.

Danny
Prominent Collaborator I
September 14, 2020

I don't use Discord so this thread has become my primary source of information about this product.

If you don't mind I would like to ask a few novice questions for those of you who are better informed.

1- For those of you who already received an early review copy, can you tell me about that process of receiving it? How long did it take to get it in the post? What country are you in and how much tariffs did you pay?

 

I’m in the U.S. Got it within 1 business day and didn’t get hit with any duties / tariffs / taxes. 

 

2- it wasn't clear to me if the Arcana needs a separate power supply, or if can it draw power from the signal source (or say the tv's usb port). If it needs external power is there an on/off switch? What happens if you turn it off or unplug it- will signal still travel across?

 

Yes, Arcana requires an external USB-C power supply that is included with the device. There is no on/off switch - it’s either plugged in or not. If unplugged, you lose all signal. It will not pass video without power (I assume the same for audio but haven’t actually been playing anything while I unplugged it so would have to test to be sure). 

 

3- I only need to link in my Xbox One X, no other devices. So if I run the X1X out to Arcana, and then the Arcana out to Sonos ARC and TV, will my TV remote still control the Sonos volume, or will i need to control the volume with the Sonos app? It's not clear to me from the product description whether this feature has been enabled.

Yes, this feature has been implemented and you should be able to do this just fine (with some caveats - Vizio TVs are being a pain re: CEC controls). 

Arc + Sub 3 + One SLs = Awesome and Loving It!
melvimbe
September 14, 2020

I’m in the US as well, but not expecting a 1 day shipping.  I’ll give it around a week before I start asking questions.  I don’t know if HD Fury sent out beta product with expedited shipping, but I just don’t thinking shipping is going consistently be that fast from Taiwan to the US.

 

@Highfalutintodd, will you be keeping your beat Arcana or selling it, since you’ll have the production model coming as well?

Danny
Prominent Collaborator I
September 14, 2020

I’m in the US as well, but not expecting a 1 day shipping.  I’ll give it around a week before I start asking questions.  I don’t know if HD Fury sent out beta product with expedited shipping, but I just don’t thinking shipping is going consistently be that fast from Taiwan to the US.

Not sure. Will find out shortly! 

 

@Highfalutintodd, will you be keeping your beat Arcana or selling it, since you’ll have the production model coming as well?

I will be selling one of them. Only one Arc so no need for two Arcanas. 

Arc + Sub 3 + One SLs = Awesome and Loving It!
Trending Lyricist III
September 15, 2020

I’ve found that zip ties and a label maker have become essential materials in my setups lately.  

Cable management has NEVER been my strong suit. Worse, those few times I actually DO take the time and effort to actually make things nice and clean, inevitably I completely end up ripping it all back out a couple of months later because I changed equipment. So, it all just gets hidden away behind the TV and we do. not. speak. about. it. ;-) 

 

Lol.  when  I got my current TV installed over the fireplace, I let Best Buy do the install.  At the time all my sources, power supply, playbar, ethernet switch, etc were sitting on the mantel.  The installers though it best to connect one line to the TV, then zip tie to existing lines.  The result was that I had a bundle of cables, about as thick as my wrist, with around 10 zip ties holding different sets of wires together.  Took me quite some time to get cut those ties, without cutting wires, when I wanted to change things.  Big mess.

 

But some Arcana news:

HDfury confirms they start shipping tomorrow.    User manual will be available online as will current firmware.

 

Only one know issue at the time, as the CEC/ARC functionality on some Vizio TVs isn’t working.  This DOES NOT mean you can’t use Arcana with your Vizio TV, @Airgetlam.  It means that CEC controls between Arc and TV won’t work, so you won’t be able to use the TV remote to control volume via CEC control (use direct IR) or use voice commands to turn on/off the TV.   The ARC part of this essentially means you won’t be able to use your TV internal smart apps.

 

the Hell of being at the forefront of technology ! 

Welcome to the “Rats Nest Club” ! my wife hates all the wires and struggles if things don’t come on first time using our harmony Elite

Prominent Collaborator I
September 15, 2020

@DuranDoranMartell 

I am from Sydney, Australia. The beta Arcana arrived 3 days after shipment. Did not need to pay any taxes. 

melvimbe
September 15, 2020

Got my shipping notice.  Estimated deliver is Sept 21, so 6 days., to the US.  Was hoping to get it over the weekend, but I can live with that!

Danny