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January 28, 2024
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Comparison of 2 turntables that will connect to my Sonos system.

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I am trying to decide on which turntable to buy that will stream into my Sonos system. I am considering either the Victrola stream Carbon or one of the two Pro-Ject turntables sold by Sonos (the T-1 or the Debut Carbon). I realize that I will have to buy another Sonos device to use one of the Pro-Jett turntable, and that is alright with me. I would appreciate any responses from people who have one of these turntables or who know something about how they compare. I have a collection of records (mostly. cassical music) from years ago that I would love to listen to.

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Stanley_4
Stanley_4Answer
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

I can’t advise you on which to buy from personal experience, but don’t forget to get the line-in if you get an Era 100 or 300 speaker and one of the Pro-Ject turntables.

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/sonos-line-in-adapter

 

The Sonos pages are really low on details and specs but all should sound decent as long as properly setup.

There are some good details and reviews here:

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_338STRMCBN/Victrola-Stream-Carbon.html?tp=75887

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_252T1PHPB/Pro-Ject-T1-Phono-SB-High-gloss-Black.html?tp=75887

 

Personally I’d go for the Victrola stream Carbon if looking at the more expensive pair, it has very good specs and it doesn’t need cables to connect, adding a lot of options for speaker selection that the wired ones don’t.

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Stanley_4
Stanley_4Answer
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

I can’t advise you on which to buy from personal experience, but don’t forget to get the line-in if you get an Era 100 or 300 speaker and one of the Pro-Ject turntables.

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/sonos-line-in-adapter

 

The Sonos pages are really low on details and specs but all should sound decent as long as properly setup.

There are some good details and reviews here:

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_338STRMCBN/Victrola-Stream-Carbon.html?tp=75887

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_252T1PHPB/Pro-Ject-T1-Phono-SB-High-gloss-Black.html?tp=75887

 

Personally I’d go for the Victrola stream Carbon if looking at the more expensive pair, it has very good specs and it doesn’t need cables to connect, adding a lot of options for speaker selection that the wired ones don’t.

buzz
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

In my opinion the Victrola-Stream-Carbon has a better cartridge.

skullc
Prodigy III
January 28, 2024

Have a read of 

https://en.community.sonos.com/groups/using-sonos-with-a-turntable-229138

there’s a few posts on there from people with both those kinds of turntables 😊

I just got a Rega Planar 1 myself but after researching the project range found that the Rega was more suited to music I listened to ie Rock music.

the T1/ortophon cartridge was more suited to jazz/classical listening 

no idea on the other option as I didn’t look at it 

hope this helps 

btw really enjoying my choice listening to it on my 2x5s and sub

Network= livewire cpe pro 3 +eero 6 pro wireless
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

I really don’t miss having to swap cartridges for different types of music and for different recording formats (Anyone Remember Quadradisc CD-4) followed by tonearm height, tracking and weight adjustments.

Spending the money to get one cartridge that is well reviewed for different music types is a very good investment in frustration reduction!

buzz
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

Yea! The ‘best’ vertical tracking angle varies with each cartridge sample and record. The most practical plan is to use a turntable with a calibrated arm height adjustment and use the height adjustment to optimize the vertical tracking angle for each record, then paste a label on the record for future reference. Unfortunately, after replacing the cartridge, you’ll need to adjust angles again.

Not everyone is sensitive to cartridge setup consequences. In some ways you are more fortunate than I!

I had a guy who liked my turntable and bought the same model and cartridge, but didn’t think that it sounded very good. He brought the turntable to me and I had my way with it, then it sounded as good as my turntable.

How do you discover the correct angle? It’s a project. Interesting, as you approach the optimum angle the sound actually degrades a bit, then a veil is lifted when you arrive.

Schlumpf
Virtuoso
January 28, 2024

@buzz

Just another proof of vinyl being some kind of voodoo or religion. 😅

Ralf
buzz
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

Not really voodoo, just not often published science. I learned about this at the dinner table. That evening we probably had the bulk of people who understood the science sitting at that table. After the dinner I tried to verify the science and found only a few articles had ever been published on the subject. I finally dug up a fundamental paper from 1941 and a couple in the 1950’s. All of the other discussions of cartridge alignment were trash. In the last couple decades we’ve made some progress. 

Schlumpf
Virtuoso
January 28, 2024

@buzz 

Wow… so you really were lucky to have a dinner in such a round of experts. 😎 

And I like the fact that some very old relicts of sience and wisdom still are up to date these days. „The wheel can’t be invented a second time“… 😅

Ralf
buzz
Grand Maestro
January 28, 2024

The 1941 paper will remind you about how much advanced math you’ve forgotten. A 1945 paper was much easier to understand, but the author made a customary math simplification that usually doesn’t matter, but it really does matter in this case.

Schlumpf
Virtuoso
January 28, 2024

@buzz

Good to know that in this dark period of history there still were such intentions of using mathematics. But back to topic… 

Ralf