Two fives and Two subs on Stereo mode

Hello @Vthomas, thank you for the feedback!

I’ve marked this thread as a feature request and forwarded it to the relevant teams for consideration. 

While I understand that the output of a full Sonos sub is greater than that of two sub minis, I really like the sound of the sealed sub more than ported. I would likely be interested in a pair of minis for slight larger rooms, knowing that a pair of full subs is still the way to go for very large spaces.

Vthomas,

I don’t know your preferences or your room layout, but subwoofer performance is very dependent on placement in the room. Maybe there is a better spot for your SUB.

You can explore your room. Play a track with a very thumpy bass line and walk the room, as close the the walls as is possible, and carry some Post-it notes. As you walk you’ll discover small locations where there is obviously more bass. Drop a Post-it here. There will be a few locations where this extra bass seems to be on steroids. Mark these locations with ‘!!!!’. After stepping back you’ll notice that the Post-its are more or less regularly placed around the room. The Post-it locations are known as a “Peak” and about midway between two Peaks is a “Null” where bass will be minimized. Placing a listener and/or SUB at a Peak will increase the bass -- especially at the ‘!!!!’ locations. If you want to do some reading, you are exploring “Room Modes”. After you become familiar with finding Peaks and Nulls, you’ll be able to find smaller Peaks and Nulls throughout your room in three dimensions.

I totally agree with this feature request. Let’s be enabled to pair two subs to a stereo pair of fives!

Thanks,

Jeff

I have pair of fives and subs now - just bought the second sub not even realizing that sonos have this software limitation? When I try to pair the second set of five + sub, software (S2) removes the second sub but keeps the sub from the first set. Doesn’t Sonos already support dual subs in HT, but why not with fives?  You already have feature to add one subwoofer, but not more?  It doesn’t look like the engineers aren’t solving the problems in cohesive and comprehensive manner.  I am mad at me for not doing the research properly and mad at Sonos right now.  If Sonos wants to sell more subs to the folks with larger rooms and also the folks who appreciate multiple speakers and subwoofers with music, they better not frustrate customers like this. Also don’t even bother releasing the updates unless trueplay handles such multi-set of speakers and subwoofers configuration.

The feature you’re requesting has been passed along to the relevant Sonos teams, as stated earlier in the thread. Meanwhile, perhaps setup a Sub with each separate Five (orientated horizontally for stereo output from each speaker) and group the two Fives in the Sonos App to have ‘playing’ Fives and both Subs. Whilst It’s not the perfect answer, it’s a good workaround whilst the requested feature is under consideration by Sonos. It sounds really good, particularly in larger rooms.

Thank you for the message.  It is helpful.  So I think I can hear better sound quality from the stereo pair + one sub after true tuning - much better than “five+sub times two” in the same room.  I will have to keep moving the subs and speakers around my room to see what locations sound best, but what is the point of paying premiums for sonos?  I’d just go back to my audiophile stack of streamer/dac+preamp/amp+ speakers/subwoofers where I can do whatever I want at each stage of music reproduction.  I am not impressed with the sonos engineering team the way they have presented the solution to the problem - they just solved it for a limited number of products and only in HT application instead of solving it scalable for all platforms.  I will see if they do better (if and when) they decide to take another crack at this.

This is a must have. I bought a second sub for this reason and was sooo disappointed to find that i couldn't use it for music. 

How hard could this be to implement?

Isn’t it just a simple update, and then we can get greater bass and Sonos could sell more subs… win/win!

I just bought a second sub to pair with my stereo 5’s as there are loads of articles across the internet saying that this is a possible configuration. I’m so disappointed that it’s not.

Has anyone tried @Ken_Griffiths suggestion of setting the two 5’s as separate speakers with their respective sub and then grouping them? 

Also, can’t Sonos do anything about all of these articles - many of which are written by magazines as opposed to just independent/individual bloggers. It’s really misleading.