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November 11, 2023

Frequent pauses leading to a silent device. Power cycling is the only workaround.

  • November 11, 2023
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(system setup description below).
Fairly recently (few months) I started having issues with my system. Basically a device starts pausing, then playing, then pausing. The pauses start being a few seconds every hour or so, but become longer and more frequent until eventually the device is just silent.

This happens whether playing music from a file share, streaming from Spotify or Apple Music or playing Radio.

This happens to any one of the devices. The only requirement is that it's left playing until it falls over.

The only way to resolve the issue is to power cycle it.

It is a daily occurence that one device needs to be power cycled.

If any support are reading (hopefully not as it’s the weekend!) I've taken the liberty of submitting a diagnostic report whilst this problem was happening:

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My setup is:

I have a small house, but a large garden with two home offices in the garden and two Play:1 in the garden. Every building is well insulated with foil backed insulation. So Sonosnet does not work too well without a few wired units.

Two Play ones are wired directly but with wifi disabled. Of the rest one Connect Amp is wired but the rest are all using Sonosnet.

This is a "traditional" (i.e. not a mesh system) with two managed Netgear 24 port switches and two unmanaged Netgear 16 port switches.

The two managed switches are cabled directly into the house router (Draytek) and have the unmanaged switches and three Draytek access points plugged into them.

  • 5 x Play 1 (two are paired)
  • 2 Connect Amps
  • 2 x Connect

All S2.

Network is mostly wired.

  • Draytek 2862 router
  • 2 x Netgear GS724t (STP is configured according to the Sonos support article but not needed now).
  • 3 x Draytek AP710 access points
  • 2 x Netgear GS116 unmanaged switches.

Thanks.
Chris

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fergycoolAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 24, 2023

Update…..! The initial support technician told me to wire all the speakers to the router. I did this but the problem persisted.

I submitted another diagnostic. This time the (excellent!) technician noted that many of the devices are suffering from low memory. Which fits the symptoms exactly as after a power cycle they function fine until the problem reoccurs.

Most of these devices are old and have less memory than the current models. He suggested that all the Connects and the Connect Amps should be wired with the wifi disabled. This would lighten the load on the problematic devices. He also suggested that the single wired "gateway" should be a Play One, which has more memory than the Connect/Connect Amps and so would be less likely to suffer the issue.

However, the only true solution would be to replace all the devices with current models, which have more memory. Unfortunately the Port and the Amp are considerably more expensive than the Connect and Connect Amps. Perhaps I need to bit the bullet and look for Black Friday offers today!

ratty
November 24, 2023

Interesting. I think that’s the first suggestion that even the 64MB units are beginning to run out of steam.

fergycoolAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 24, 2023

I understand the

Interesting. I think that’s the first suggestion that even the 64MB units are beginning to run out of steam.

Is it the Play:1 that only has 64mb of Ram?

fergycoolAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 24, 2023

I’ve plugged in every Connect/Connect Amps to ethernet and disabled wifi. That leaves five Play:1s. I’ve been able to plug in two of those. So I’ve disabled wifi on one, and left wifi enabled. So hopefully that leaves just four Play:1s on Sonosnet with just one of those ethernet connected. Fingers crossed.

ratty
November 24, 2023

According to this chart Play:1 has at least 128MB.

fergycoolAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 24, 2023

Thanks. So it’s the Connect/Connect Amp that has 64mb.

fergycoolAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 29, 2023

A further update. After wiring the majority of the devices, including all the Connect/Connect Amps (and disabling wifi) a few days later the problem returns. So it’s looking like the Connect and Connect Amps are nearing the end of their life! That’s going to be quite an investment for me to replace them all. I’ve taken a diagnostic and will contact support with it. But it looks like an unworkaroundable issue :-(  I wonder if I can switch to S1? I use SMB stored flac files for a music library, streamed radio, Apple Music and Spotify.

ratty
November 29, 2023
fergycoolAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
March 12, 2024

I finally found time to follow this up with Sonos, with fresh diagnostic reports after their advice to wire as much as possible to reduce memory usage on the older devices.

After lots of back and forth about not wiring speakers as it causes a broadcast storm, I was able to inform the representative that only one wired speaker had wifi enabled and I had not seen a broadcast storm for years! ..AND that is was sonos support that recommended me to do this :-)

The representative then said "a system update is the best way to proceed. But we do not have an ETA".

I asked for confirmation that this was “..the memory issue on the older devices” and the rep confirmed that this was the case and repeated that  "..At this time, updating your system is the best way to alleviate this issue. We do not currently have an ETA.".

So it looks like Sonos will hopefully reduce the memory usage for these older devices with a firmware update.

Airgetlam
March 12, 2024

If they can. Since the amount of ‘dead’ memory may be a variable, it is possible that they can’t make every device work again. I wouldn’t be expecting a ‘silver bullet’ that fixes every issue. 

Bruce