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Trending Lyricist I
May 10, 2023
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Best setup for large wt room. 2 open areas

Video Explanation here:

https://www.loom.com/share/0766f07c569e490c9e0a4a0ba4520840

Have access to:

x2 Sub gen 3

X6 SL Ones

X3 Fives
x1 Arc

 

  1. Should I have the subs connected and on the same wall? Or should I keep the sub 2 connected the Five in the medium room?
  2. Also, the sub connected to the arc in the large room isn’t really shaking or rattling the room at all. I honestly was expecting a very large boom for the price. Am I doing something wrong with the sub connected to the arc?

    3. Is this the best set up for loud music that could shake the room if needed?
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AjTrek1
AjTrek1Answer
May 18, 2023

Bass is non-directional. When the unit is properly positioned you should not be able to discern where the sub is located; unless you are standing in very close proximity. However the sub does need to be in the same room. 

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buzz
Grand Maestro
May 16, 2023

The physics couldn’t care less about the possibility of theft. Placing SUB in a corner will increase its efficiency. A three way corner (floor or ceiling) is more efficient than a two way corner (wall/wall, wall/floor, or wall/ceiling). The peaks and nulls that I mentioned above actually occur in three dimensions. A taller or shorter person on my Post-It parade will have slightly different results and once you are adept at finding peaks and nulls, you’ll be able to discover smaller peaks and nulls in three dimensions throughout the room.

Likely you have a drop ceiling. In this case SUB will be more efficient on a floor corner than a ceiling corner.

I recommend mounting the ONE’s above the crowds. Making a point of mounting them as high as possible, is not the most productive use of their output. To some extent the highs of any speaker beam and the beam apex angle decreases as frequency increases. If you want to mount the speakers very high, angle them toward the coverage area.

onac5656Author
Trending Lyricist I
May 16, 2023

Thanks for the update!

Typically the One’s should only be 8 ft above floor, mounted on the North and South walls and angled slightly downward.

The subs should be in the corners and resting on the floor for optimal affect.

Subs being stolen…didn’t see that one coming 🫤. Given that people coming to your gym are in pretty good shape…I still can’t see someone casually walking out with a sub unnoticed (they aren’t exactly feather lite) 😅.

You could remove them each night and secure them in a locked room/closet. You’d have to mark each sub so that each one is returned to the same spot. You could outline the floor placement with tape to place the sub inside of it. However, being positioned 1 inch off center left or right shouldn’t affect the tuning.

Question: How were you planning to mount the subs???

 

Thanks for the 8ft above floor feedback for the one’s, that is now being implemented on installation. 

What is your recommended above floor height for the 5’s? 

 

Yea this is a high school gym and has a good amount of foot traction with outsiders. Not just our kids but outsiders have to walkthrough the gym to get to the wrestling room. NOT ideal but I like your idea to just lock them up each day then put back at the same spot. 

Here’s the link to mounting the subs I was going to use:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-Tt7slKUKLgL/p_870SUBB/Flexson-FLXSUBB.html?XVINQ=GZ0&XVVer=T5G&awcr=628588405846&awdv=c&awnw=g&awug=9021756&awkw=pla-298164792395&awmt=&awat=pla&gclid=CjwKCAjw04yjBhApEiwAJcvNoSrdCiuqOhlzvp979fd4tRJ28dTE7Gp37RIXmQnjzXUD657M2XajohoCz3AQAvD_BwE

 

 

 

buzz
Grand Maestro
May 16, 2023

As long as the chain does not rattle (perhaps rubber covered) I don’t think that there will be a major impact on sound if you looped an anchor chain through the port.

AjTrek1
May 16, 2023

@onac5656

Hi

The Fives should be mounted at same height as the One’s.

The mount you are considering for the Sub is not a security mount. It just attaches to the wall and the sub is hung from a hook through the port and held in place via suction cups.

Removing the subs at night would be my choice. Putting a chain through the port as suggested by @buzz may stop the theft but you may still wind up with a damaged sub.

Thieves tend to get frustrated when they can’t get their way and then try to destroy the object of their desire. Think taking a hammer to the sub. Dealing with high schoolers the rage to destroy what they can’t have IMO would be very high.

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onac5656Author
Trending Lyricist I
May 16, 2023

Meeting with the install guy tomorrow, will provide your exact feedback for implementation. 

So the Sub in the small room should go into a corner, Does it matter which one?

AjTrek1
May 16, 2023

Meeting with the install guy tomorrow, will provide your exact feedback for implementation. 

So the Sub in the small room should go into a corner, Does it matter which one?

It doesn’t matter which sub as they are all the same in size. The only difference might be Gen 1, 2 or 3 which really won’t make a difference in your scenario. All subs should be bonded to a Five. All subs should be placed in a corner for maximum affect in a triangle position whenever possible. That gives you the benefit of two walls and the floor. If you decide to lock them up at night you need to mark each sub so that you return it to the same Five it was originally bonded to. 

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onac5656Author
Trending Lyricist I
May 16, 2023

Awesome, I’ll make sure each sub is in a corner. 

For the small room that only has 1 sub do you recommend a specific corner? or should I do the post it test? 

AjTrek1
May 16, 2023

Awesome, I’ll make sure each sub is in a corner. 

For the small room that only has 1 sub do you recommend a specific corner? or should I do the post it test? 

Do the “post-it test as suggested by @buzz .

Hint: You can mark each sub and Five with the same color “sticky dot” available at office supply stores. That way all you have to do is match the dots when returning the subs to their correct placement spot everyday. 

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onac5656Author
Trending Lyricist I
May 18, 2023

Is it a problem if the sub in the small room is a good distance from the five that it is paired with?

 

waiting on the last 2 Ones and for the mounting. Then toning will be an adventure! 
 

buzz
Grand Maestro
May 18, 2023

Not much because you will be playing the same music. Balancing the levels might not be very intuitive.