Will there be a Sonos Five soon? 2020?

I just picked up a play 5 Gen 2. I had one already which I won a couple of months ago. I picked up a refurbished play 5 from Best Buy. It was Essentially new. And now I have stereo. 

I  think you would get more than 5 years of support. The Playbar has 128MB of ram and if they can squeeze 5 years of support out of that we should get more out the the play 5.

Also, I get the feeling that if Sonos can support a speaker they will for as long as possible. I don’t think they use this to force and upgrade. 

And they are still technically supporting older devices with bug and security updates. 

All in all, for a ‘tech’ company they are doing a great job of keeping equipment useable as long as possible. 

Britishwonderings do you work for Sonos ? lol!!!

unfortunately a lot of people on this forum willl not share your thoughts on how good a job 

Sonos do at trying to ensure that your system stays relevant and up to date . 

Ha! No I don’t work for Sonos! I do work in Technology and I don’t deal with many technical companies that support their products as long as Sonos do. 

My wifes car is 2015, no s/w updates, no carplay or any such luxury. iPhones get you around 5 years, android phones less. Tablets etc… long list of stuff. 

But off we go and buy another iPhone etc. And we understand that for features we need this. What if you just want a couple of video apps and text messaging - you still need to buy a new phone even if you old one works. To stay secure and have apps that still work you need a phone that’s less than 5 years old. Please note - that is secure and works. A 7 year old iPhone might work but it’s not been secured for two years. 

Sonos is a tech company. If we want new features, Atmos etc then what do we do? 5 years from now if Sonos don’t offer new features they will start to be come less relevant to consumers. 

At the end of the day S1 devices still work, still sounds great and are still supported with patches and security updates. These devices are 10-15 years old. They will continue to work and continue to be secure. And if I want a new one I get a 30% discount and I can keep my old one (The ‘brick’ option only concerned me from an environment perspective not a business one).

I don’t work for Sonos but I just don’t have any complaints about them regarding this. I want good quality whole home audio that is modern and relevant. I want new technology to be available to me. To get this I understand that there is tech element and that will age out much faster than an Amp and Speaker combo. 

I am mystified by other perspectives - I understand them on an emotional level but intellectually I just can’t see a big problem. 

Britishwonderings i guess Sonos has to decide if its a tech company or a speaker company, if its a tech company then i understand that new things have to be introduced to stay relevant, but if your a speaker company then a certain amount of longevity is expected as well. It would be interesting to see how many people use the new “tech” ? I for one was quite looking forward to Alexa and Google voice control ,never use it ! I think a lot of people like the idea of cutting edge “tech” but in reality day to day how many really use the full range of features ? I am going to have to upgrade my play 5 1st gen, so i hope Sonos if the rumour of a new P5 is true, have built a decent amount of longevity into it , Put decent memory into the unit dont put just enough to run the unit as it is, memory is cheap you can go big without much cost . Sonos has annoyed a lot of people this year they can probably pull the stunt one time only and get away with it , I will upgrade my P5 so i am on one system instead of a split system, but i will only do it once . 

We’ll find out later today!

well i guess i will be pre ordering today then !!!!

@lonestay There is no decision. Sonos is a tech company.

The mere fact that the speakers can stream audio from the Internet on their own, makes them more than a speaker.

Normal speakers are extremely simple from an engineering perspective. A cone driven by a coil and magnet - these things rarely fail unless they fall apart. Most speakers don't contain electronics that fail more quickly, like capacitors, resistors or transistors.

So both on hardware as well as software side - which most amps/speaker combos don't even have, it is unfair to compare Sonos lifespan to that of regular speakers. I bet that if you would take only Sonos' actual speaker hardware and drive it with the right amp, they would last just as long, because you've removed the complex and vulnerable part. But in terms of functionality, that would leave you with, indeed, a dumb speaker, which is not what Sonos is about.

As to the original topic, I look forward to what Sonos will announce later today.

Yes we will!

I think the distinction between Tech and Audio company is mainly down to perception - the reality is Sonos is both and the tech component is hard to future proof. At some point the cost of future proofing will be prohibitive. 
 

I’m sure they could engineer something but again - cost/benefit again comes into play, especially with the 30% trade up program. 
 

I’m looking forward to the Atmos sound bar. Probably more 2021 thing for me. Otherwise I’m happy with my current kit. 

I don’t think they have to neatly fit into either of these categories.  There certainly is a tech element to their products, which is going to puts some limits on longevity.  At the same time, they can strive to last a bit longer than pure tech products like phones, since the investment is often larger.

From what I’ve seen, people are very different regarding what features they want and use.  Most tend to think the product is worthless without their feature of choice.  Few use the full range of features, but rarely does a feature go unused. 

You say that as if your play:5 1st gen was built without any future proofing at all, and never had any additional features added.

Just to be clear, you do have the option to keep everything on an S1 (legacy system), in addition to upgrading to S2 or going with a split system.

Danny I do understand that I can leave everything on the S1 legacy system but why would I ? If we except the fact that Sonos is a tech company, then I want the rest of my Sonos S2 compliant kit to be running the latest updates and security patches,  after all we have established that there are only so many updates a unit will get before Sonos decide it's fate and calls it legacy .