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September 17, 2016
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Why I'm returning / selling my brand new Sonos Play 1

Just bought a Sonos Play 1 today.
I'm not happy with it to say the least.
I was expecting by it's description and it's reviews to produce really high quality sound.
I have to say I like the tone of the audio on some songs, others are to be desired, but whats rubbing me the worst is the actual quality of the audio. There seems to be a blotchy-ness with it that makes it sound almost low-res. There seems to be a lack of harmonic detail, any brass on the drums tends to sound like bad static more then a physical ringing instruments that they are. Something that really shocked me was when I was listing to "The Best You Never Had" by Leona Lewis. There's a synth tune that plays about 0:32 in the song, I like the tune, I tend to hum it when the song comes up, however whats strange is that my Sonos Play One the synth melody is almost inaudible! Then it got me thinking; "If I can't hear that, then what else can't I hear!?" There really is a shocking lack of detail in this speaker. I described it at one point as a sounding almost as a "supermarket speaker".

The sound quality isn't my only issue. It's also support. I understand you only support iOS and Android. The thing is I'm a hobbiest Windows 10 UWP App developer and my smartphone of choice is a Lumia 640 for it's affordability and decent spec and construction. Microsoft Lumia smartphones are officially unsupported by Sonos. Sonos does however support UPNP playback and so I can use that right? Well for about 8 hours of trying my Lumia 640 wasn't connecting to my Sonos. Totally frustrating! It somewhat works now, although I can't adjust the volume. I surprised to see that the Play 1 doesn't have bluetooth connectivity. It's something so common that I just thought it was given and that it a real bummer for me.

One of the only reasons I bought the Sonos over other brands of speakers was the True Audio technology. It made the speaker sound almost atomically customizable. Although I don't have a supported phone, my dad has a Galaxy S4 which he said he would let me borrow to set up this feature, which Is when I found out after I bought my Play One that it only works on Apple smartphone's and tablets, something which highly annoyed me as I don't own one (I'm not THAT rich or technically competent).

I bought my, what I think is a considerably expensive Sonos Play One speaker on the grounds of it having a really great audio quality, being vastly customizable, being able to tailor tune it to my room, being somewhat compatible with my phone, supporting bluetooth connection (Which is my fault really, although their is literally no information on the box and the website is just as cryptic).

What I believe I got is a well made, powerful, low-res wireless speaker that fails to accurately produce the entire frequency range of audio, that contains a shallow app (Using my Windows Laptop) with lack luster configurable options, that is sold under false pretenses to I'd imagine ~70% of customers whom don't own an Apple products, including myself.

Start to finish for me buying, unpacking, using and configuring this product I've had nothing but annoyances (Which I'm probably passing on my irritation to you, for which I apologize.)

I like the Sonos brand. I think the product line needs an update and I'm getting my money back be it via a refund or private sale on a popular auction website.

Thanks for you time and patience.

Nathan.
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    122 replies

    September 30, 2016
    I accept that there may be such systems that will sound better to me.

    I shouldn't really have used 'better', anyway - it's more 'hi-fidelity' - in the original sense, not the green felt tip pen sense 😉
    ratty
    September 30, 2016
    Are you able to also toggle back and forth between lossy and lossless to see if the air collapses and comes back?
    No. I simply pulled a stream from Deezer Elite. I don't have any other subscriptions at present.

    If you're interested: http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compression-does-your-music
    Lyricist III
    September 30, 2016
    Sonos will always use the highest quality from spotify regardless what the Spotify app is set to.
    Next month (apparently) you will be able to control Sonos directly from the Spotify app without needing the sonos app at all as they will enable Spotify Connect compatibility on Sonos speakers.
    Surely this is not so, i did not change any other parameter.
    Paulw123
    Virtuoso
    September 30, 2016
    Presumably the play1 is processing both LR stereo tracks into one mono output somehow?
    nicka99
    Local Superstar
    September 30, 2016
    Sonos will always use the highest quality from spotify regardless what the Spotify app is set to.
    Next month (apparently) you will be able to control Sonos directly from the Spotify app without needing the sonos app at all as they will enable Spotify Connect compatibility on Sonos speakers.
    Surely this is not so, i did not change any other parameter.


    it must have been placebo effect with your brain tricking you into thinking because you changed something to 'better' it must now sound 'better'
    here is confirmation from Sonos that the highest quality is always taken. you cant adjust it yourself. That setting you refer to only applies in the Spotify app when streaming/downloading to your phone

    https://en.community.sonos.com/music-services-and-sources-228994/setting-playback-quality-for-spotify-4440574/index1.html#post15296838
    Lyricist III
    September 30, 2016
    The more i listen the more i get upset with Sonos Play:1 sound quality. I'm pretty sure if someone would do a decent sound analysis it would show major distortions in the soundimage. Digital sound speakers, yuck.

    The voice is simply being killed, dynamics reduced to sloth. I cannot believe this is entirely due to a mono speaker. I don't have a way to test this unfortunately, not yet.

    Let it be said, this is my first halfway decent speaker i ever bought. Before i had an old stereo which played great sound to my ears. Then a cheap Logitech 2.1 soundsystem actually sold for games but it plays sound okay, at least not flattened. Now a €199 speaker which fails to convince because it's not stereo or just not good sound quality.

    I did not buy this Play:1 as my kitchen or bedroom speaker but as the start of my main sound system. I expect to add another Play:1 this weekend but now i'm just anxious and frustrated with the sound quality perceived.
    ratty
    September 30, 2016
    Presumably the play1 is processing both LR stereo tracks into one mono output somehow?
    Yes. The 'somehow' is straight addition: L+R.
    Lyricist III
    September 30, 2016
    Sonos will always use the highest quality from spotify regardless what the Spotify app is set to.
    Next month (apparently) you will be able to control Sonos directly from the Spotify app without needing the sonos app at all as they will enable Spotify Connect compatibility on Sonos speakers.
    Surely this is not so, i did not change any other parameter.


    it must have been placebo effect with your brain tricking you into thinking because you changed something to 'better' it must now sound 'better'
    here is confirmation from Sonos that the highest quality is always taken. you cant adjust it yourself. That setting you refer to only applies in the Spotify app when streaming/downloading to your phone

    https://en.community.sonos.com/music-services-and-sources-228994/setting-playback-quality-for-spotify-4440574/index1.html#post15296838


    or rather, i changed room and the door is now closed, before i was in a spaceous kitchen.
    nicka99
    Local Superstar
    September 30, 2016
    or rather, i changed room and the door is now closed, before i was in a spaceous kitchen.

    do you have access to an IOS device where you can run Trueplay ? This will take room effects into account and adjust the equalisation to compensate.
    This should be done every time you move the speaker. You can toggle Trueplay on/off and listen for the difference. It can be night vs day or very subtle. Totally depends on your environment.
    Lyricist III
    September 30, 2016
    Nicka99 i change this speaker from room to room infrequently, i don't have access to an IOS device immediately.