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Contributor I
August 26, 2012

Why Can't I listen to my music through my Computer?

My only disappointment with the Sonos system is a big one: why can't I listen to the music playing on the Sonos system through my computer? is there a way to do this???
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    BCM
    December 27, 2016
    I'm rather surprised and disappointed that I can't just play Sonos through my existing high quality studio monitors that are already plugged into the very same computer that and are already powered by a high quality digital quality digital audio controller.

    If they are true high quality studio monitors, then there is no sound colorization whatsoever... no highs, no lows... just flat frequency response as it should be heard specifically for mixing. Because they are probably powered, you can hook a Connect to them and do what you need, but again, the sound won't be what you expect.

    And why that would stop you from getting Sonos kit for the rest of the rooms in the home is perplexing.
    inopinatus
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 27, 2016
    He's just trolling. Sonos is a wireless loudspeaker system manufacturer. Mike101 wants to benefit from their technology without buying the Sonos Connect that achieves it.
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    Avid Contributor I
    December 28, 2016
    He's just trolling. Sonos is a wireless loudspeaker system manufacturer. Mike101 wants to benefit from their technology without buying the Sonos Connect that achieves it.

    My question was reasonable. Some of you are clearly so highly invested into their system so that you become angry when "outsiders" question things.
    inopinatus
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 28, 2016
    My question was reasonable. Some of you are clearly so highly invested into their system so that you become angry when "outsiders" question things.
    I'm not angry; I think your request is grossly unreasonable. You wish to increase your benefit from someone's technology, but you don't want to pay any more for the privilege. As a product developer myself (in a very different product category, but still) I have a very low opinion of your position.
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    Avid Contributor I
    December 28, 2016
    My question was reasonable. Some of you are clearly so highly invested into their system so that you become angry when "outsiders" question things.
    I'm not angry; I think your request is grossly unreasonable. You wish to increase your benefit from someone's technology, but you don't want to pay any more for the privilege. As a product developer myself (in a very different product category, but still) I have a very low opinion of your position.


    Inopinatus, your opinion is very important. Please opine on why customers should be forbidden from being able to listen to music through their own computer speakers.

    Do you feel that it is your prerogative to insult Sonos customers who make requests and post complaints onto the forum that was provided by Sonos for this express purpose?
    Avid Contributor I
    December 28, 2016
    I'm rather surprised and disappointed that I can't just play Sonos through my existing high quality studio monitors that are already plugged into the very same computer that and are already powered by a high quality digital quality digital audio controller.

    If they are true high quality studio monitors, then there is no sound colorization whatsoever... no highs, no lows... just flat frequency response as it should be heard specifically for mixing. Because they are probably powered, you can hook a Connect to them and do what you need, but again, the sound won't be what you expect.

    And why that would stop you from getting Sonos kit for the rest of the rooms in the home is perplexing.


    I have no problem with purchasing speakers to place into rooms that do not already have a high quality DAC/Studio monitor combination.
    I also have no problem purchasing a Connect to power a speaker that is not located in the same room as the aforementioned high quality DAC/Studio monitor combination.
    It does not, however, make sense to buy a Connect to power the studio monitors, which have two separate 1/4 jack inputs, which are being fed by an Apogee DAC, which itself is already connected to the computer that is streaming the music.

    As to why this would stop me from getting Sonos kits for other rooms, the reason is that I do not wish to invest in a system that does not allow me to accomplish my goals.

    If my request seems unreasonable to the people here, it did not seem unreasonable to Apple a decade ago, when they released AirPlay.
    inopinatus
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 28, 2016
    Inopinatus, your opinion is very important. Please opine on why customers should be forbidden from being able to listen to music through their own computer speakers.

    I don't think that. I think your demand for Sonos to enable it for you using their technology, at zero cost to you and considerable product development cost to them, to be laughably absurd.
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    Avid Contributor I
    December 28, 2016

    The notion that someone would just by a Raspberry Pi is absurd.


    No, it's not. Sonos' chief competitor used to be Squeezebox. They created a "software zone", exactly like what is requested here. It was no secret you could cobble together an extra Zone or two by using a Raspberry Pi, if you didn't want to pay the premium for regular Squeezebox hardware. It didn't sync well, but nobody cared. Nowadays, Squeezebox is long gone as a brand, but do you know what lives on? The Squeezebox "software zone" running on Raspberry Pi computers.

    Fast forward to today, and there are a half-dozen or more Sonos competitors. You know what they all have in common? They all do not have a software player to play over computer speakers. Looks like the market learned its lesson.


    If all I wanted to do was stream music to my own speakers, I would just use Apple Airplay for that. I like the way Sonos speakers sound and want to use Sonos speakers for MOST of the rooms in the house. Just not the studio that already has a studio monitors and a top of the line DAC.
    inopinatus
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 28, 2016
    ... which itself is already connected to the computer that is streaming the music ... it did not seem unreasonable to Apple a decade ago, when they released AirPlay.
    This it the crux of the problem. You think the computer is streaming the music.

    Sonos doesn't work the same way as Airplay, sorry. The computer is not streaming the music. Sonos players (speakers/connects) are independent computing devices that do the streaming themselves. This is why you can tell a Sonos speaker to play from Apple Music, then turn off your computer and it keeps playing.

    If you happen to be playing from a music library that happens to be on that computer, it still isn't streaming it. Sonos run a tiny HTTP service and the speaker/player just fetches most/all of the file.

    This is what happens when people make assumptions about the technology, they start making demands that don't fit the way it actually works.
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    BCM
    December 28, 2016

    If all I wanted to do was stream music to my own speakers, I would just use Apple Airplay for that. I like the way Sonos speakers sound and want to use Sonos speakers for MOST of the rooms in the house. Just not the studio that already has a studio monitors and a top of the line DAC.


    If you like the way the Sonos speakers sound, then why do you want to play music through the monitors? The monitors have a dedicated purpose, as does the DAC, and so do the Sonos speakers. As I wrote, those studio monitors sound vastly different than any other speaker platform. If you want music streaming from the DAC through the monitors, just do it from the DAC. You are talking about two distinctly separate functions and sounds. I've got the same setup, and I have two Play:1s in my studio. I know the Sonos are not computer speakers, and knew they never were, so my setup works just fine when mixing and playing back through either source. I want to hear the raw tracks through the studio monitors, then play them back through the Plays so I can hear how it sounds in the real world.