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Contributor I
September 23, 2014

What Subwoofer should i buy to the Sonos Connect Amp?

What Subwoofer should i buy to my newly bought Sonos Connect Amp and Dali Zensor 5:s? I have no clue about Subwoofers so i really need help. I dont even know if i should get an active subwoofer or an passive subwoofer. 🙂
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jgatie
September 23, 2014
What Subwoofer should i buy to my newly bought Sonos Connect Amp and Dali Zensor 5:s? I have no clue about Subwoofers so i really need help. I dont even know if i should get an active subwoofer or an passive subwoofer. :)

You would need a powered (active) sub. Budget will greatly affect your choices, as will size and impact requirements. An old adage in subwoofer design is:

Cost, Size, Power, Extension. Pick any three, the fourth is non-negotiable.
September 23, 2014
I would recommend a Sonos Sub, using one myself with a Connect Amp and pair of Quad 11L speakers.
However, the Quads are a stand mounted small enclosure type compared to the floor standing Zensor 5s - I would question the need for a sub with them.
But if you must have a sub, either get a Sonos Sub that can be crossed over as low as 50hz, not using the sub out on the Connect Amp which has a fixed crossover of 80hz that doesn't quite suit the Zensor 5s. If you prefer a third party sub, see ones like RELs, that allow a high level input, where they are connected to the speaker terminals on the Connect Amp and not its sub out that does the 80hz crossover.
Contributor I
September 24, 2014
You would need a powered (active) sub. Budget will greatly affect your choices, as will size and impact requirements. An old adage in subwoofer design is:

Cost, Size, Power, Extension. Pick any three, the fourth is non-negotiable.

Ok, so the Connect Amp wont drive an passive sub well?
Contributor I
September 24, 2014
I would recommend a Sonos Sub, using one myself with a Connect Amp and pair of Quad 11L speakers.
However, the Quads are a stand mounted small enclosure type compared to the floor standing Zensor 5s - I would question the need for a sub with them.
But if you must have a sub, either get a Sonos Sub that can be crossed over as low as 50hz, not using the sub out on the Connect Amp which has a fixed crossover of 80hz that doesn't quite suit the Zensor 5s. If you prefer a third party sub, see ones like RELs, that allow a high level input, where they are connected to the speaker terminals on the Connect Amp and not its sub out that does the 80hz crossover.

Im sorry but i dont quite understand, do you mean that a subwoofer connected to the subwoofer-out on the Connect Amp wont go lower then 80hz and that does not suit the Zensor 5:s? How dont that suit the Zensor 5? Im sorry im such a newbie and that im probably asking alot of stupid questions. 🙂
Avid Contributor I
September 24, 2014
Im sorry but i dont quite understand, do you mean that a subwoofer connected to the subwoofer-out on the Connect Amp wont go lower then 80hz and that does not suit the Zensor 5:s? How dont that suit the Zensor 5? Im sorry im such a newbie and that im probably asking alot of stupid questions. :)
No, other way around, if the Connect:Amp detects anything attached to the sub-out it will cut all frequencies below 80Hz from the main speakers and send them all to the sub-woofer.

What Kumar is saying is that the Dalis, being floorstanders, are probably quite capable at frequencies below 80Hz, so would possibly benefit from a lower crossover (say 50Hz for example), which the Connect:Amp can't provide.

It would still work though, you wouldn't be left with a hole in the sound or anything, it's just that the sub would be handling frequencies that you may be better letting the Dalis deal with.

It would be easier to make recommendations if we had some idea of your budget as well.
September 24, 2014

It would be easier to make recommendations if we had some idea of your budget as well.

Indeed.
I would also recommend holding off from a sub for a while till you know what is it that you are missing that you want a sub to fill in for the music you like. See if moving the speakers closer to the walls is of help - these moves are easily done.
And if you do get a sub, be sure to get it on a returnable basis if you don't like what it does to the sound from the main speaker pair. Subwoofer integration for music play can be tricky and doesn't always work. Boosting low frequency sound energy can cause unwanted interaction with the room and often in such cases, a less is better approach where bass is concerned gives better overall sound quality.
Contributor I
September 24, 2014
No, other way around, if the Connect:Amp detects anything attached to the sub-out it will cut all frequencies below 80Hz from the main speakers and send them all to the sub-woofer.

What Kumar is saying is that the Dalis, being floorstanders, are probably quite capable at frequencies below 80Hz, so would possibly benefit from a lower crossover (say 50Hz for example), which the Connect:Amp can't provide.

It would still work though, you wouldn't be left with a hole in the sound or anything, it's just that the sub would be handling frequencies that you may be better letting the Dalis deal with.

It would be easier to make recommendations if we had some idea of your budget as well.

Oh, thank you VERY much, now i get it. 😮
Im not excactly sure of my budget since it depends alot on how much money i have to spend to get a good wubwoofer, i think im prepared to pay enough to get a suitable subwoofer. The guy at the store that sold me the Dali Zensor 5:s and the Connect Amp recommended DALI Sub E-9F which costs around 470 Euro here so maybe that will be my budget if you dont give me a good reason to go higher, im open to all suggestions. 🙂 I understand what you mean with the low frequencies being better handled by the Floorspeakers. This is the subwoofer the guy at the store recommended:

http://www.dali-speakers.com/en-US/Loudspeakers-1/SUB-E-9-F.aspx
Contributor I
September 24, 2014
Indeed.
I would also recommend holding off from a sub for a while till you know what is it that you are missing that you want a sub to fill in for the music you like. See if moving the speakers closer to the walls is of help - these moves are easily done.
And if you do get a sub, be sure to get it on a returnable basis if you don't like what it does to the sound from the main speaker pair. Subwoofer integration for music play can be tricky and doesn't always work. Boosting low frequency sound energy can cause unwanted interaction with the room and often in such cases, a less is better approach where bass is concerned gives better overall sound quality.

I will buy something thats returnable, thanks for the tip! 🙂 Im very grateful to you guys for helping me out!
September 24, 2014
This is the subwoofer the guy at the store recommended:

http://www.dali-speakers.com/en-US/Loudspeakers-1/SUB-E-9-F.aspx

From what I see of the spec it only accepts input from the Connect Amp's sub out jack, that will divert all bass from 80hz down from the main speakers to the Sub - making your floor standers the equivalent of a cheaper Zensor 1 or 3.
I am not saying it won't work not having tried it, but in effect you are losing the value for the extra you paid for the 5 over the 1 or the 3.
No harm in trying it out as long as you are able to return it if it doesn't add to music sound quality.
PS: Cut and paste from the Dali website, fyi: "The DALI SUB E-9 F is recommended as compliment to the KUBIK FREE as well as the compact models of the ZENSOR and FAZON series.".
Contributor I
September 24, 2014
From what I see of the spec it only accepts input from the Connect Amp's sub out jack, that will divert all bass from 80hz down from the main speakers to the Sub - making your floor standers the equivalent of a cheaper Zensor 1 or 3.
I am not saying it won't work not having tried it, but in effect you are losing the value for the extra you paid for the 5 over the 1 or the 3.
No harm in trying it out as long as you are able to return it if it doesn't add to music sound quality.
PS: Cut and paste from the Dali website, fyi: "The DALI SUB E-9 F is recommended as compliment to the KUBIK FREE as well as the compact models of the ZENSOR and FAZON series.".

Hm, you make some really good points, maybe i should rethink the subwoofer it thats the case... Or do you have some other tip on what subwoofer to buy and how to connect it so that wont happen?