Trade up scheme

That’s BS though because it only needs to play an audio stream and the old stuff was designed to that.

No, it needs to access the source, it needs to authenticate, it needs to decode the codec, it needs to be the master for any other devices that are grouped, it needs to incorporate timing queues into the stream, it needs to process track information, it needs to store the queue, track index, favorites, account info, diagnostic info, any service required DRM scheme, etc., it needs to communicate with the controller, it needs to communicate with Amazon Web Services, it need to manage the Sonosnet mesh, it needs to navigate STP . . .

Need more?

Enthusiast II

That’s BS though because it only needs to play an audio stream and the old stuff was designed to that.

No, it needs to access the source, it needs to authenticate, it needs to decode the codec, it needs to be the master for any other devices that are grouped, it needs to incorporate timing queues into the stream, it needs to process track information, it needs to store the queue, track index, favorites, account info, diagnostic info, any service required DRM scheme, etc., it needs to communicate with the controller, it needs to communicate with Amazon Web Services, it need to manage the Sonosnet mesh, it needs to navigate STP . . .

Need more?

I don’t use a music service - I use a NAS (my own collection) and internet radio.

It can handle it - no problem.

Why would I want to upgrade so I can pay another subscription service for something I don’t want.

And all of those things it had to do back when I bought it - except for Amazon which I don’t give a flying about.

I don’t use a music service - I use a NAS and internet radio.

It can handle it - no problem.

Why would I want to upgrade so I can pay another subscription service for something I don’t want.

And all of those things it had to do back when I bought it - except for Amazon which I don’t give a flying about.

Well, how generous of you to feel your anecdotal account of personal usage speaks on behalf of millions of other customers!

Enthusiast II

I don’t use a music service - I use a NAS and internet radio.

It can handle it - no problem.

Well, how generous of you to feel your anecdotal account of personal usage speaks on behalf of millions of other customers!

Mate Sonos can write middleware for the streams and do it in the cloud they just want to get more money from existing customers - it’s a cynical move. I also don’t need to apologise for my own personal usage case. It’s my equipment, I didn’t lease it. It’s not my problem they didn’t bargain for the whole of life support costs.

Mate Sonos can write middleware for the streams and do it in the cloud.

I really don’t know why you are complaining, if all you do is stream from an NAS and TuneIn, you can stay at a legacy version, not receive updates and your Sonos will play on until the hardware breaks. Sonos has given you exactly what you wish for.

Enthusiast II

Mate Sonos can write middleware for the streams and do it in the cloud.

I really don’t know why you are complaining, if all you do is stream from an NAS and TuneIn, you can stay at a legacy version, not receive updates and your Sonos will play on until the hardware breaks. Sonos has given you exactly what you wish for.

Well for one I recently purchased a Sonos Beam for my TV so they’ll be screwing with my network. The stupid thing doesn’t work with TV properly either makes it reboot. I wish I could send it back to them :-)

Enthusiast II

At any rate people poo hoo’d my post that this would happen and I just posted this stuff to say I told you so.

Anyway most of their modern stuff is tinny subpar mono speakers that are no substitute for even a stereo system from the 1970s which would eat them for breakfast in terms of sound quality.

The ZP’s leverage off your existing systems - the new stuff are just glorified Amazon echos or whatever you call them. Pathetic toys.

At any rate people poo hoo’d I just posted this stuff to say I told you so.

Didn’t poo hoo it at all. I personally said it was inevitable, so you spiking the ball means nothing.

Anyway most of their modern stuff is tinny subpar mono speakers that are no substitute for even a stereo system from the 1970s which would eat them for breakfast in terms of sound quality.

And yet you bought them, and signed up for an internet forum to talk about them. :laughing:

Enthusiast II

At any rate the people poo hoo’d my post that this would happen and I just posted this stuff to say I told you so.

Didn’t poo hoo it at all. I personally said it was inevitable, so you spiking the ball means nothing.

Anyway most of their modern stuff is tinny subpar mono speakers that are no substitute for even a stereo system from the 1970s which would eat them for breakfast in terms of sound quality.

And yet you bought them, and signed up for an internet forum to talk about them. :laughing:

No I didn’t - I bought a sound bar for an inconsequential bedroom TV and the ZP’s (these so called legacy devices) use my Stereo systems. I don’t have Sonos Ones etc.