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koen71
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September 10, 2019
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Sonos Move - existing sonosnet

Hello,

I understood from several messages that the Sonos Moce will not be incorporated in the Sonosnet mesh network and if I continue using the sonosnet basically will not be able to included the move in groups and plkay synchronized music.

I have an existing network with 10 + speakers, consisting of play 1 One, play 3 play 5 (1ste and 2nd gen) beam and sub, .
Till now the clear message was that for such qty of speakers the only good option was the Sonosnet.

My network is build up from with ubiquiti material (USG / managed switches & 2 accesspoints)

Basically buying a Move would push me from the Sonosnet to wifi, will this setup be as stable as the sonosnet ?
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    ratty
    ratty
    January 17, 2020

    You have a decidedly unique environment.  

    Sufficiently unique as to not meet the system requirements, which include “WiFi router”. 

      denix
      Lyricist III
      January 17, 2020

      You have a decidedly unique environment.  For 99.9% of the installs out there, the Move’s WiFi vs Wired setup issues would be transparent to the user and therefore not a “technical limitation”.  I imagine that is why the “limitation” is not prominently disclosed.  

       

      While it’s not a very common setup, you’d be surprised how many people are moving into this direction of segregating insecure IoT devices into own isolated networks… So, I wouldn’t call it 0.1%, but more like 1-2% :)

       

      denix
      Lyricist III
      January 17, 2020

      You have a decidedly unique environment.  

      Sufficiently unique as to not meet the system requirements, which include “WiFi router”. 

      Plenty of people have WiFi APs instead of routers. I’m pretty sure system requirements for all Sonos products call for some sort of WiFi access. I have 4 separate WiFi APs serving multiple networks and 10+ existing Sonos products working perfectly fine with this setup. Where in the linked page does it say that Move is different from the rest of Sonos products?

       

      jgatie
      jgatie
      January 17, 2020

       

      While it’s not a very common setup, you’d be surprised how many people are moving into this direction of segregating insecure IoT devices into own isolated networks… So, I wouldn’t call it 0.1%, but more like 1-2% :)

       

       

      Regardless, as ratty stated, it is outside the specified requirements.  Here’s hoping that after a long rest up, and packing of emergency supplies for the journey, your trip to the store/shipping drop off to return the item, while although perilous, will not be very life threatening. 

       

        denix
        Lyricist III
        January 17, 2020

         

        Regardless, as ratty stated, it is outside the specified requirements.  Here’s hoping that after a long rest up, and packing of emergency supplies for the journey, your trip to the store/shipping drop off to return the item, while although perilous, will not be very life threatening. 

         

        Yeah, thanks for the snarky remark - it’s very helpful! :)

         

          John B
          January 17, 2020

          It really isn't realistic to expect Sonos to mention this in marketing material when it would be irrelevant, baffling and unnecessarily off-putting to the vast, and I mean VAST, majority of potential customers.  ('Can't connect to SonosNet? What does that mean? Does that matter?'). 

            ratty
            ratty
            January 17, 2020

            You have a decidedly unique environment.  

            Sufficiently unique as to not meet the system requirements, which include “WiFi router”. 

            Plenty of people have WiFi APs instead of routers. I’m pretty sure system requirements for all Sonos products call for some sort of WiFi access. I have 4 separate WiFi APs serving multiple networks and 10+ existing Sonos products working perfectly fine with this setup. Where in the linked page does it say that Move is different from the rest of Sonos products?

             

            A WiFi "router" is of course a basket of functions, including gateway, NAT, DHCP server, DNS forwarder, switch, access point and so forth. If the same functions can be provided by multiple devices then all well and good.

             

            The Move page on the Sonos site, entitled "Move: A Portable WiFi + Bluetooth Speaker" also says:

            "WiFi at home, Bluetooth everywhere else

            Stream over WiFi and connect Move to the rest of your Sonos system at home. Switch to Bluetooth when you're away and offline."

              John B
              January 17, 2020

              Certainly good to see Sonos making a careful distinction betwen wireless and WiFi. Perhaps at some point they will deal with that enable / disable WiFi setting in the app.

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