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Dave
Headliner II
February 9, 2015

Play 1 Battery Pack

There are many posts and request for a portable or outside speaker on ask.sonos and others for a battery powered Play 1.

The Play 1 is plugged in from the bottom with a very flush and tidy fitting power lead. This makes me think and others might agree that a battery pack could be developed that works like a drill battery and plugs into the bottom of the Play 1 - maybe the power lead could also plug into the bottom of the battery pack to recharge in situ so it is seamless in design and can be used whilst recharging or if battery power is low.

I would opt for a lithium-ion polymer battery as:

Excerpt from wikipedia
“The result is a "plastic" cell, which theoretically could be thin, flexible, and manufactured in different shapes, without risk of electrolyte leakage.”
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    Prodigy II
    July 16, 2017
    How much do you think this battery would weigh? Cost (ha ha ha ha ha !)? How long it would last?
    Belly M
    July 16, 2017
    The Bluesound Pulse Flex has a battery pack available which weights 200g, costs £69 and 5-6 hours of playback time. If Sonos had a speaker with a battery pack of similar specs I for one would be happy.
    July 16, 2017
    It would be nice to have the option of Sonos away from a mains power source but...... Sonos is designed to be a multiroom (not much use outdoors), network-based (so need a wifi network), home audio system. The Sonos app is just a controller and doesn't stream the music. The use case for a small outdoor speaker is met already, and rather better IMO, by several portable Bluetooth speakers. Give me one of those please, instead of a battery pack to lug round with my Play:1.

    So I don't think Sonos is ignoring customers. Sonos just, probably, think it's not a very good or commercially viable option.

    I respect the request for this, and it's not unreasonable, but I think there are good reasons why it will not see the light of day.
    Contributor I
    July 16, 2017
    To: John B: I get excellent WiFi on my deck so it's just like another room in my house. I bet there are vast numbers of Sonos users who have the same set up. Second, I'm not saying that Sonos should do this (although I'd like it if they did). I'm asking why a third party hasn't done it already, like third parties have done with Echo. Just look at Amazon. There are several battery bases for Echo made by businesses other than Amazon. I ask again, is there some technical reason why someone couldn't make a battery base for the Play 1 speaker?
    July 16, 2017
    Possibly not a technical reason, but the same commercial reason i suggested. The Sonos architecture is not geared towards playing music in the absence of a wifi network. A location like a deck can access mains electricity. For 'away from home' listening tbere are better options than Sonos. So maybe there just isn't enough demand for the end use.

    I'm only guessing. I am not claiming to have the definitive answer.
    Contributor I
    July 16, 2017
    You are correct that you can connect a speaker to an outlet on your deck, but it's less convenient than just placing a speaker on a table. In my case, the outlet is not proximate to where I would want the speaker placed. I also have a small patio that has no outlet and is also well within WiFi range, so not possible to place a Play 1 speaker there. My question is if there's demand for and Echo battery base and for a Denon battery base, why wouldn't there be demand for a Sonos battery base? It doesn't seem logical to me that there's no demand for only Sonos.
    July 16, 2017
    Echo does bluetooth i believe. Sonos doesn't. Don't know about Denon.
    July 17, 2017
    My question is if there's demand for and Echo battery base and for a Denon battery base, why wouldn't there be demand for a Sonos battery base? It doesn't seem logical to me that there's no demand for only Sonos.
    How would you or anyone know how much of these are actually being sold? It could just be a poor product management decision from the makers of these bases.

    To make sense and have enough demand, the speakers - IMO - need a combination of battery, bluetooth and some measure of weather protection so they can then be used as easily as similar bluetooth speakers that are available at many price points now; just having a battery doesn't cut it where enough demand has to be generated for the development costs. It also needs to be more easily carried than even a play 1, which is a big heavy unit once one has to travel with it. All of which is probably why no third party maker has come up with a play 1 dedicated battery base - Sonos cooperation is not needed for this.

    On the other hand, anyone really wanting music on a long term basis in the patio is best served by installing passive speakers with speaker wires running inside to a place where an amp that does not need weather protection, and does not need a battery, can be placed. Which is what most do, I reckon. With passive speaker pairs that can do excellent music, available at sub USD 100 prices.
    Contributor I
    July 17, 2017
    First, how do I know? Just look at the number of Echo battery bases on sale at Amazon and the mostly positive reviews. These manufacturers wouldn't be producing them if there wasn't latent demand for them; and new ones are popping up constantly. My neighbor bought one for his Echo and loves the convenience--it works great too. Second, they aren't speakers, they are bases into which you place the speaker---in this case the Echo or in Denon's case the Heos (there's another example of a major manufacturer deciding it's a good idea to provide their customers with portability and who has concluded there's a market for these bases). Third, and as I've stated previously, I'm not necessarily talking about Sonos producing this battery base (although I'd buy it if they did). I'm talking about a third party producing them, as many have done for the Echo. Fourth, I'm not talking about traveling with it. I'm talking about putting the speaker in a base and taking it 20 feet to your deck or patio--the weight isn't a factor here. Fifth, who wants to deal with bluetooth when you could have WiFi? Sixth, you really believe anyone's going to go to the time and effort to run last century technology around their home when they could simply place a speaker in a base and carry it 20 feet??? My assumption about the lack of Sonos battery bases is that there is some technological barrier that's unique to Sonos that's prevented these battery bases from being produced, that third parties have looked into it and have decided that the obstacle is too difficult to overcome. Nothing else makes sense.
    Paulw123
    Virtuoso
    July 17, 2017
    I think I read somewhere, that sonos are looking into weather proof speakers for the outside garden, as the garden is seen as another "room" theses days.