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Contributor I
January 27, 2017
Answered

Minimum Volume is too loud to enjoy background music

The minimum volume on a Play 1 for instance (volume level 1) is too loud to let the music play as background.
It's "no music" or "too loud music" on volume level 1 Nothing in between. Ideally I could lower the music volume like an old amplifier. It's as simple as that. We use the Sonos system on the lowest volume side and the minimum volume is just way too high. I'm surprised that nobody else raises this.
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Ryan S
Ryan SAnswer
Retired Sonos Staff
October 9, 2018
Hi everyone, starting today with Sonos 9.2 there's the ability to use the mobile controller for Android or iOS to set a maximum volume for each of your Sonos players. The reason I bring it up in here, is that if you have the maximum volume set at 50%, the whole volume bar will still go from 0-100, but 100% will now reflect what your volume limit is set to. This has the added benefit of being able to get more granular control of players at low volume, as the volume steps will scale up or down with the max volume.

So, if you never set your players above a certain volume, this is a great chance to improve the control at lower volumes. Play around with it and see if this helps.
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Local Superstar
October 10, 2018
So, to clarify Ryan, you've added news about the new update to this thread that is explicitly discussing the minimum volume being too high - yet it makes zero difference in that regard?
EDIT:typo
Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
October 10, 2018
I'm sharing news about a new feature, that's related to this thread. Often times, people who think the players are too loud will also want to be able to make them play quieter at the top end too. We'll make sure to update this and other threads if there's any news about changing the minimum volume. What can I say, I'm excited about the feature, and I like to think someone in this thread may find it useful too.
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Contributor II
October 17, 2018
Hi everyone, starting today with Sonos 9.2 there's the ability to use the mobile controller for Android or iOS to set a maximum volume for each of your Sonos players. The reason I bring it up in here, is that if you have the maximum volume set at 50%, the whole volume bar will still go from 0-100, but 100% will now reflect what your volume limit is set to. This has the added benefit of being able to get more granular control of players at low volume, as the volume steps will scale up or down with the max volume.

So, if you never set your players above a certain volume, this is a great chance to improve the control at lower volumes. Play around with it and see if this helps.


I’m afraid this doesn’t help. In my living room I have a Sonos playbar, sub and two play 5’s. I set the maximum volume to 20% and it still goes from zero to too loud. There is still no inbetween.
Trending Lyricist I
October 17, 2018
The max volume feature does nothing with regards to low volume. Personally, I don't understand why Sonos keeps adding these corner case features when there is a huge customer base asking for more fine grained control on lower volumes since 2014.

Unless the hardware isn't capable of delivering sound quality at lower than current minimal levels I could understand, but I assume this is just a volume scale between 0-100 that treats every step as equal. Treat the first 0-10 with more fine grained control and the other 90 with less accuracy. Quite simple solution and shouldn't take days to implement.
jgatie
October 17, 2018
The max volume feature does nothing with regards to low volume. Personally, I don't understand why Sonos keeps adding these corner case features when there is a huge customer base asking for more fine grained control on lower volumes since 2014.

Unless the hardware isn't capable of delivering sound quality at lower than current minimal levels I could understand, but I assume this is just a volume scale between 0-100 that treats every step as equal. Treat the first 0-10 with more fine grained control and the other 90 with less accuracy. Quite simple solution and shouldn't take days to implement.



"corner case"? "huge customer base"?

Google "site:https://en.community.sonos.com sonos volume limit"

1,970 results

Largest thread, 6 years old, 8 pages:

https://en.community.sonos.com/controllers-software-228995/volume-limit-feature-4412144



Google "site:https://en.community.sonos.com sonos lowest volume too high"

217 results

Largest thread 1 year old, 4 pages:

https://en.community.sonos.com/wireless-speakers-228992/minimum-volume-is-too-loud-to-enjoy-background-music-6764717
Chris
Lead Maestro
October 17, 2018
So you have set the max volume to like 10% and then used the slider and half the slider doesn’t change volume at all. I haven’t tested just curious. You would have thought it would create finer steps. Maybe something they can implement next.
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Chris
Lead Maestro
October 19, 2018
Ok I just don't find any validity to this. I went and set several of my speakers to 20% max volume. The slider then still slides all the way with much better fine tuning then of lower volume. I mean if I clicked up 1-2 notches I could barely hear the speakers. I really don't understand this being any issue - especially when people have said they have tried this.
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Airgetlam
October 20, 2018
I'm wondering if there's a level of "it has to be this loud in order to get the electronics to function" that people aren't getting past on this. I also tend to wonder why they just don't move the speakers further away. I get the possibility of it being too loud for certain things when it's next to the head, but not the whole "then just move it 10 feet away, and it won't be as loud" part as a non starter..
Bruce
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
October 20, 2018
Playing from my music library or Napster my speakers (Play 5s, 3s and 1s) go so quiet I can barely hear them at a foot away. I'm curious what services folks are having too-loud issues with.

Fooling with the volume and volume limit gives very odd results. I do not have the best ears and my listening area is not very quiet but these results are what I'm hearing.

Try these tests on your systems, having two controllers handy, one on the Play / Queue screen and the other on the Volume Limit screen makes it a lot easier.

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With the volume limit at 100% If I press the volume down button (Paired Play 3s) until they go silent and then press it 5 more times a single press on the volume up returns the sound to the minimal level.

With the volume limit at 25% If I press the volume down button until they go silent and then press it down 5 more times a single press on the volume up does nothing, 5 more presses returns the sound to the minimal level.

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With the volume limit at 100% and sound at the last down push of the volume control where you can still hear music; Changing the volume limit changes the music volume by about half at all from 100% to about 15%, where it goes silent.

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With the volume limit set at 1% it takes a bunch of up-clicks (from the 100% silence level) to get the sound to appear but it seems to come back on at about the same level as with the limit at around 15%

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So what do your systems do?
Chris
Lead Maestro
October 20, 2018
My first click I could just here sound coming out of speaker if I held ear against
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