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Enthusiast I
January 29, 2024

Era 300s for stereo

Does anyone have much experience using 300s as a stereo pair?   I was thinking of using them with a Sub for music.   Reviews I've seen range from excellent to poor imaging and a "sonic mess" for stereo.   I guess that's because the drivers point in all directions.   Other reviews love them. 

 

I wanted to hear from someone other than a youtube reviewer. 

 

My room is maybe 16 ft square and is on the padded side for a living space. 

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Ken_Griffiths
January 29, 2024

I have a stereo pair of Era-300s (without a Sub) in our Kitchen/Diner and I think they sound fantastic - I mostly use them with Amazon Music Unlimited and they are a great sounding stereo pair. I’m sure adding a Sub to the pair would also be incredible… Anyhow, I personally have no hesitation in recommending the Era-300 speakers.

Dogdad
Headliner III
January 29, 2024

Had a pair and returned them. Wasn’t impressed and went back with my One’s. 

AjTrek1
January 29, 2024

I…like @Ken_Griffiths think the Era 300’s sound good as a stereo pair. I have them bonded with a full size sub which allows them to focus on mids and highs. A sub mini would have sufficed but I already had an extra sub.

In truth I also have a pair of Fives bonded with a sub. The Fives are a “one trick” pony in that they are designed for stereo only; but IMO do a better job for PURE stereo separation to present a wide sound stage. They also have a better low-end without a sub.

The Era 300’s also have the option of Dolby Atmos which the Fives do not. Therefore IMO they are a better value than the Fives.

However, if you don’t have a pair of Fives to perform an A/B comparison you won’t be disappointed with the Era 300’s as a stereo pair. Even if you could do an A/B comparison you may not notice any difference. Takes a very discerning ear to say one sounds better than the other. Like mine 😂😂😂

If I could only purchase a set of Era 300’s or Fives based upon value/versatility I’d choose the Era 300’s. If I wanted the best stereo Sonos has to offer (albeit by a small margin) I’d choose a set of Fives.


 

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Rob_95Author
Enthusiast I
January 29, 2024

Thanks for the input.  I read elsewhere that Sonos has removed the balance slider for the 300s so there is no way to adjust the balance.   Is this true?  If so, that could be a problem. 

Ken_Griffiths
January 29, 2024

Thanks for the input.  I read elsewhere that Sonos has removed the balance slider for the 300s so there is no way to adjust the balance.   Is this true?  If so, that could be a problem. 

It’s correct, there has never been a balance control for the Era 300 stereo pair, because of its angled speakers, I guess …and the fact Trueplay tuning takes care of the rest.

I did once request L/R control though, suggesting it might be helpful when ‘spatial audio’ in the room has been set to ‘disabled’ on the pair, but whilst that went forward as a feature request, it’s not been implemented thus far, probably due to the reasons mentioned. In real terms the paired 300s audio output works really well, even when not sat at the ‘sweet spot’ in a room, so I guess therein lies the reason why the balance control has not been implemented.

Rob_95Author
Enthusiast I
January 30, 2024

I disconnected my 300 surrounds and set them up as a stereo pair with a Sub, just to try it out.   My first impressions are mixed. 

 

The 300s are very bright and detailed in the high end.   Their dispersion is better than any speaker I have ever heard.  Highs are clear no matter where you stand or sit in the room.  Still, the speakers have a sweet spot that is dead center at about the distance equal to their separation.   Move to either side and they can sound off balance.   They do need a balance slider if only because most rooms have unbalanced acoustics.   I assume that,  because of the position of each driver,  balancing is not as simple as left or right volume adjustment, and that Sonos hasn't figured out a simple way to do it. 

 

I do find them lacking in warmth, though.  There is something missing in the lower mid to upper bass that makes them sound a little harsh to me.  I've played with the EQ a bit but haven't had much luck.   If I increase the bass, it can get a bit boomy, so that doesn't appear to be a fix.   If someone has had experience with this, I'd appreciate any suggestions. 

 

I love these things as surrounds, so they will eventually go back to the home theater.   In the mean time,  I'll continue to use them as a stereo pair to see if it's worth buying another pair for that purpose.   Overall, I do like them for stereo, I'm just not sure how much. 

 

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
January 30, 2024

Your profile doesn’t say but if you have a sub what does it do for your sound?

Rob_95Author
Enthusiast I
January 31, 2024

I do have a Sub connected.  It provides solid bass that you can feel, but being a Sub, it doesn't contribute much to the mid bass.   They sound very good together.   I still have a lot of listening to do before I decide whether I want to get another pair of 300s or get a pair of Fives. 

 

 

Rob_95Author
Enthusiast I
January 31, 2024

After reading the glowing reviews about Trueplay, I drove to Costco in search of the cheapest iPad I could find.   I live in the Android universe, so I figured with all the dough I've dropped on Sonos, a cheap iPad wouldn't break the bank any more then it has been broken already. 

 

I ran Trueplay on the 300s and Sub setup, and it sure did make a difference.   The speakers sound much more balanced now, both left to right and tonally.  Bass is solid all the way to the floor, highs are clear and open throughout the room, and the transition between the two is smooth. 

 

For reference,  I listened to Brandenburg Concertos 1 and 2 played by Academy of Saint Martin in the Fields and sir Neville Marriner, Wynton Marsalis Standard Time Volume 1, and Jaco Pastorius Jaco Pastorius.  I also listened t to some hip hop to see how this system handled that thunderous bass.

 

This setup sounds great.   I've never heard speakers fill a room like these.  It doesn't really sound like the music is coming from speakers.  It sounds more like the music is in the room.  It's almost like you're in a concert hall or a jazz club.  Further, while you can certainly crank these up, you don't have to.   They are enjoyable at lower volumes as well. 

 

I don't want to over hype these.  The sound quality will be limited by their size and price, I'm sure,  but I'm no audiophile - I don't listen so much to the speakers but to the music.  These sound great. 

 

I still don't know whether to buy another pair of these or get a pair of Fives for music.   These have to go back to my home theater,  eventually.   The Fives would have to be a noticeable improvement though. 

 

If anyone has any experience comparing the two, I'd appreciate their comments. 

AjTrek1
January 31, 2024

Hi @Rob_95 

Re-Read my post above in this thread. For Pure Stereo separation and wide sound stage I prefer my Fives. The Fives provide a more traditional listening experience; if that is your goal. However, if possible you should do an A/B test in your home as only your ears can be the final judge. Sonos in the US has a 45 day return no questions asked (so to speak) policy. The return policy does vary by region. 

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