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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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4256 replies

Aug 4, 2020 9:38 PM UTC

I 2nd that….these guys are Brutal...it will catch up to them..They charge big money then slowly make the product obsolete…

looking for options that last!!

 

 

 

what, longer than a 15 year old ZP80 that is still going strong? Do you actually have a clue what is happening here?

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Lyricist I
Aug 5, 2020 8:07 AM UTC

Pure greed. Sonos got funding, and now they’re looking for ways to squeeze profits out of existing users to increase revenue and valuation. Wrong move. Sonos just killed its customer loyalty. 
 

i woke up this morning to find that over $3,000 of “legacy” products no longer work cohesively or get updates. My newer Sonos products (which are inferior quality btw) don’t function with the whole house. Wow. How long before the $2,000+ in newer products doesn’t work right?!! I will not spend another penny on your products. And I’m leaving reviews warning new users wherever I possibly can. DO NOT BUY!!

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bockersjv
Local Superstar
Aug 5, 2020 11:42 AM UTC

Pure greed. Sonos got funding, and now they’re looking for ways to squeeze profits out of existing users to increase revenue and valuation. Wrong move. Sonos just killed its customer loyalty. 
 

i woke up this morning to find that over $3,000 of “legacy” products no longer work cohesively or get updates. My newer Sonos products (which are inferior quality btw) don’t function with the whole house. Wow. How long before the $2,000+ in newer products doesn’t work right?!! I will not spend another penny on your products. And I’m leaving reviews warning new users wherever I possibly can. DO NOT BUY!!

Have you actually read the information about legacy kit?.  There is still a spported S1 system for all your kit to work with so what’s with the lies?  Just trolling probably.  Grow up.

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binh25
Avid Contributor I
Aug 7, 2020 12:07 AM UTC

It is not too late for them to go back, just have one apps supporting legacy and new stuff and just create good features and people will upgrade. I am willing to upgrade but not with this split S1 and S2 and S3 and S4 stuff. Keep it simple one app and go back to your grassroot

This strategy failed and wont get existing people to buy more Sonos

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jgatie
Aug 7, 2020 1:23 PM UTC

It is not too late for them to go back, just have one apps supporting legacy and new stuff and just create good features and people will upgrade. I am willing to upgrade but not with this split S1 and S2 and S3 and S4 stuff. Keep it simple one app and go back to your grassroot

This strategy failed and wont get existing people to buy more Sonos

 

If they could have prevented the split, do you really think they would have chosen not to?

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Aug 7, 2020 1:30 PM UTC

It is not too late for them to go back, just have one apps supporting legacy and new stuff and just create good features and people will upgrade. I am willing to upgrade but not with this split S1 and S2 and S3 and S4 stuff. Keep it simple one app and go back to your grassroot

This strategy failed and wont get existing people to buy more Sonos

The strategy was to get the extremely limiting older devices out of the way so that the system could develop and remain market-leading.  Absolutely essential.  No chance of them going back.  Less than no chance.

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Avid Contributor I
Aug 14, 2020 11:59 AM UTC

Despite your promise not to you’ve  essentially bricked my system. (Macintosh OS Sonos version 10 auto updates disabled.) How and WHY are you getting to my application On my iPad and iPhone!?


This morning all I can see is a screen telling me I need to find my speakers. Yesterday my speakers work fine. I can still play music but I can no longer control anything.

 

 What’s up with that?

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melvimbe
Aug 14, 2020 12:12 PM UTC

Despite your promise not to you’ve  essentially bricked my system. (Macintosh OS Sonos version 10 auto updates disabled.) How and WHY are you getting to my application On my iPad and iPhone!?


This morning all I can see is a screen telling me I need to find my speakers. Yesterday my speakers work fine. I can still play music but I can no longer control anything.

 

 What’s up with that?

 

If you can play music, then it’s not bricked.  What you’re describing sounds like a network issue, most likely IP address conflicts.  Quick fix is to unplug your router and your speakers, then plug back in your router, followed by the speakers.  This should resolve conflicts.  For a more permanent fix, reserve IP addresses in your router.

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Danny
Lyricist I
Aug 16, 2020 4:46 PM UTC

Pure greed. Sonos got funding, and now they’re looking for ways to squeeze profits out of existing users to increase revenue and valuation. Wrong move. Sonos just killed its customer loyalty. 
 

i woke up this morning to find that over $3,000 of “legacy” products no longer work cohesively or get updates. My newer Sonos products (which are inferior quality btw) don’t function with the whole house. Wow. How long before the $2,000+ in newer products doesn’t work right?!! I will not spend another penny on your products. And I’m leaving reviews warning new users wherever I possibly can. DO NOT BUY!!

Have you actually read the information about legacy kit?.  There is still a spported S1 system for all your kit to work with so what’s with the lies?  Just trolling probably.  Grow up.

In practical terms it is bricked. Here is why. I bought my first Sonos products over a decade ago, and I bought it because it did two things well. First, it streamed both my music library and paid streaming services through a large old house with minimal drop off. Second, anyone could pick up the remote and use it. They were expensive then, but worth it for the hassle free quality.
 

Now, we are far from that. I have to run two apps (which are slow to interact on a mesh Sonos network that has hardwired components) to work a whole house system that technically is not a whole house anymore at a cost that was in excess of $8k. In addition, I suffer constant drop offs that I didn’t have until the last year or so, and it is no longer a snap for my family or friends to use because of the need for two apps. 
 

So, yeah it’s bricked for the reasons I bought the product line, and after countless recommendations and thousands spent, I’ll no longer buy another Sonos product, and I’ll strongly recommend against buying it while the current C-suite is in place.

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Lyricist I
Oct 17, 2020 8:33 PM UTC

Music from legacy product stopped and this s***!!!  

 

 

 

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