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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Airgetlam
May 6, 2020 12:04 AM UTC

So, still rumors.

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Bruce
Trending Lyricist I
May 6, 2020 12:12 AM UTC

From 9 to 5 Mac : Sonos is readying updates to the Sonos Play:5, Sonos Sub, and Playbar as part of a Sonos press event scheduled for May 6th. Today, reporter Roland Quandt has shared photos on Twitter of what appears to be marketing images for the new products.

Pretty solid rumors. Guess we’ll find out soon.

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May 6, 2020 5:58 AM UTC

So the new Sonos Five is officially on the way. Man would I be PO’d if I had traded up to Gen 2’s.

Why, if so? Same product, same money as they were happy  with yesterday. 

And then there is Sonos' generous returns policy  

So if rumours are true, so what?

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Trending Lyricist I
May 6, 2020 7:49 AM UTC

 

So the new Sonos Five is officially on the way. Man would I be PO’d if I had traded up to Gen 2’s.

Why, if so? Same product, same money as they were happy  with yesterday. 

And then there is Sonos' generous returns policy  

So if rumours are true, so what?

Because, if so, Sonos disengenuously dangled the bait of 30% off Gen 2’s when they knew a Gen 3 with hugely greater life expectancy was just aound the corner.

And even if, as is no doubt the case, those who bought Gen 2’s are happy with them, I believe that the great majority would have waited had they known.

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Contributor I
May 6, 2020 10:32 AM UTC

I would give more users credit here. I don’t think people rush into decisions like updating hardware.

Many like myself have probably held off updating to second generation 5s precisely because it seemed likely that a new update was on the way.

I updated one of my 5s under the previous scheme to a Beam because it suited the use I was putting the 5 to, which was a bedroom speaker that occasionally streamed TV via audio-in. Now I have a dedicated Beam that is much more functional and properly connected to the bedroom TV (not used much).

But, I have deliberately waited to see what may happen before committing to doing anything with my second 5. I am sure many others have been equally cautious of ‘upgrading’ to slightly older technology.

In general we accept terms and conditions as presented. For example I could theoretically complain about my old bricked 5. But I went into an agreement willingly because it suited me. I got what I expected. I now have a unit gathering dust but theoretically I could offer it for spares to whoever I pass my other soon to be redundant 5 on to.

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melvimbe
May 6, 2020 10:59 AM UTC

Because, if so, Sonos disengenuously dangled the bait of 30% off Gen 2’s when they knew a Gen 3 with hugely greater life expectancy was just aound the corner.

And even if, as is no doubt the case, those who bought Gen 2’s are happy with them, I believe that the great majority would have waited had they known.

 

It’s not 30% off of Gen 2’s.  It’s 30% off any single item  (including sets) on the site, and it has no expiration date.   What exactly were you expecting Sonos to do here? Not allow people to use the discount before new products were announced?  Or maybe give them a warning about potential new products?  Should Sonos publicly announce all of their product plans with as much notice as possible, killing existing product sales and give away all trade secrets, just so no one regrets buying now vs later?

 

What you’re complaining about really has nothing to do with the trade in discount, or with Sonos specifically either.  There is always going to be those who would have held off a purchase now had they known what was coming down the pipeline later.

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Danny
Enthusiast II
May 7, 2020 6:42 AM UTC

sonos release new 'arc' atmos soundbar

retired: 

playbase (i like the idea of putting your tv on top of a big speaker) 

sub gen 2

ive actually just updated to a denon av receiver and q acoustics 5.1 speakers and x2 cambridge minix speakers for atmos (ish - due to having a old 200 year old ceiling made out of lasagne sheets i decided to mount on the wall pointing down)

 

overall better than a playbase, sub and 2xplay1s as a 5.1 setup so glad i made the switch to 'dumb' speakers and i imagine will be better at atmos than a tiny thin soundbar lik3 the sonos arc.

 

the only thing i miss is the better music streaming feature (but i rarely use this, 99.5% of sonos use for me is 'tv sound' based on my sonos account). i cant listen to heos whilst playing a game on hdmi (though, i can stream via heos whilst watching freeview / dtv).

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Smilja
May 7, 2020 8:20 AM UTC

sonos release new 'arc' atmos soundbar

retired: 

playbase (i like the idea of putting your tv on top of a big speaker) 

sub gen 2

 

The Playbase hasn’t been retired, it’s still around for purchase.

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Lyricist I
May 7, 2020 4:22 PM UTC

Hi. Is my ZP90 eligible for the upgrade discount to a Sonos PORT?

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jgatie
May 7, 2020 4:52 PM UTC

Hi. Is my ZP90 eligible for the upgrade discount to a Sonos PORT?

 

Yes. And the discount can be applied to any Sonos device.  

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