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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Lyricist III
Feb 22, 2020 3:54 PM UTC

It has been over a month since you made this ridiculous announcement and I have yet to see an ample response. Your products distribute music, it is a very basic thing. Please provide us a technical reason why you can’t continue to support the distribution of streaming music through the network…..other than your greed to try and get everyone to “upgrade”. I can assure you that most of your customers will be migrating to other systems if you can’t at least provide a realistic response!  
 

You have lost me as a customer for life and I have been sure to tell others to never buy anything you make. 

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Feb 22, 2020 3:59 PM UTC

A very basic thing? ROFL.

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Feb 22, 2020 4:04 PM UTC

 I would love to understand why a Play:5 is legacy and a Play:3 isn’t.
 

Maybe because the Play:3 has twice the memory of a Gen 1 Play:5?

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Enthusiast I
Feb 22, 2020 9:27 PM UTC

 I would love to understand why a Play:5 is legacy and a Play:3 isn’t.
 

Maybe because the Play:3 has twice the memory of a Gen 1 Play:5?

John. I’d dipped out of this conversation as it keeps asking the same questions. However... still waiting for someone to explain why legacy products can’t continue to be updated to provide basic functionality - i.e. streaming music - pretty much forever. That’s all most of us want, forget about gimmicky addons.

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Ken_Griffiths
Feb 22, 2020 9:43 PM UTC

 I would love to understand why a Play:5 is legacy and a Play:3 isn’t.
 

Maybe because the Play:3 has twice the memory of a Gen 1 Play:5?

John. I’d dipped out of this conversation as it keeps asking the same questions. However... still waiting for someone to explain why legacy products can’t continue to be updated to provide basic functionality - i.e. streaming music - pretty much forever. That’s all most of us want, forget about gimmicky addons.

That’s indeed the plan, the devices with less-memory will step across to the legacy system and will be kept running with all the features they have today and will receive updates related to security and to keep their services running for as long as its practicable to do so and for the foreseeable future.

Only the products held in a modern system will get any new features.  

So if you do nothing and stick with a legacy setup, then nothing will really change at all with your current Sonos devices… that is (perhaps) the 'most simplistic' way of looking at the recent Sonos announcements.

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Feb 22, 2020 10:30 PM UTC

 I would love to understand why a Play:5 is legacy and a Play:3 isn’t.
 

Maybe because the Play:3 has twice the memory of a Gen 1 Play:5?

John. I’d dipped out of this conversation as it keeps asking the same questions. However... still waiting for someone to explain why legacy products can’t continue to be updated to provide basic functionality - i.e. streaming music - pretty much forever. That’s all most of us want, forget about gimmicky addons.

I cannot ne sure, but I imagine it might be possible to do that. But that would involve fully maintaining two parallel active systems, one of them used by a fairly tiny,  and dwindling, number of users.

Probably just not economic in an increasingly competitive market.  This tbread has been full of reminders about the alternatives available, after all. 

That's just guesswork on my part, of course.

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Trending Lyricist I
Feb 24, 2020 5:01 AM UTC

After a scan of my system, Most of my players are on the 30% discount upgrade list so that’ fine, but one isn’t.  On the Sonos webpage (after checking for legacy products) there is this comment. “If you're having trouble updating, there are alternative ways to recycle and earn 30% off” I have such a ZP80… what exactly are the alternative ways to recycle and earn 30% off? I can’t find them anywhere on the Sonos webpage.. Thanks! 

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Prodigy II
Feb 24, 2020 10:15 AM UTC

it’s more positive a word than recycle, it’s trade up :grinning:

https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/tradeup

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Trending Lyricist I
Feb 24, 2020 10:52 AM UTC

^ Sure happy to trade up… I got it sorted by calling the Sonos help… now waiting for a manual update, then process email back discount etc.. I have to say I’m impressed by Sonos support.. cudos to Sonos! 

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Lyricist I
Feb 24, 2020 10:58 AM UTC

Bottom line is that they have lost me and a huge amount of others as customers. NOTHING will make me buy a Sonos product ever again.

And the fact they they obviously have Sonos employees or family of such posting on here makes it all the more pathetic. A sorry attempt at a PR spin.

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