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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 11:27 AM UTC

I already ordered a completely new system from Teufel/Raumfeld.

Frank  

 

Didn’t know that brand but looks attractive - thanks for the hint!

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“This is a chance now to come up with a system that doesn’t cause massive planetary damage in exchange for disposable stuff,” Proctor said. (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3a8dpn/sonos-makes-it-clear-you-no-longer-own-the-things-you-buy)
Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 11:27 AM UTC

Message to CEO - you have lost your way.  This company was built on quality, open platform and longevity.  Next move Speaker Subscription?.?  Get your head out of silicon valley BS and get back to basics and build quality enduring products and increase your sales via new product innovation not forced obsolescence.

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Contributor I
Jan 24, 2020 11:30 AM UTC

You really didn’t think about this Legacy announcement SONOS - it’s clear that your customer relationship, brand, & marketing teams were obviously not consulted prior to the announcement. One word... ‘SUICIDAL’. To go from being a truly ‘loved brand’ to a hated one in the matter of days is criminal. Why you didn’t offer a much better deal (70%?) to trade-in I don’t know? Congratulations SONOS…very well done.

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Enthusiast I
Jan 24, 2020 11:41 AM UTC

Could someone please add the CEO’s email address again - I know it’s in here somewhere!

This is the email address patrick.spence@sonos.com

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Trending Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 11:41 AM UTC

Message to CEO - you have lost your way.  This company was built on quality, open platform and longevity.  Next move Speaker Subscription?.?  Get your head out of silicon valley BS and get back to basics and build quality enduring products and increase your sales via new product innovation not forced obsolescence.

This is why it's such a shame, they've completely U-turned on a lot of values that once made them a great company. Now loyal customers will only see a PR machine with no credibility or consistency. 

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#BoycottSonos
Enthusiast II
Jan 24, 2020 11:41 AM UTC

I already ordered a completely new system from Teufel/Raumfeld.

Frank  

 

Didn’t know that brand but looks attractive - thanks for the hint!

Very nice! Not available in North America sadly? SONOS are really being left behind. 
I love it.

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Sonos from leader to loser in 2020.
Contributor I
Jan 24, 2020 11:49 AM UTC

 30% OFFER NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO 70%  - This is simple, and I strongly believe this is the only way SONOS can even attempt to rescue this situation and it’s brand. 

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Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 11:50 AM UTC

Shame on you Sonos, I’ve had my device for over 10 yrs, I enjoy it with my family.  It seems you don’t give a damn about your customers, it’s all about making the most money.  Typical greedy company, it’s disgusting, I will never buy another Sonos product again.  You lost a lot of good customers, from what I’ve been reading.  Hope it was worth it.

                         Sign:  Very disappointed customer

    

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Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 11:53 AM UTC

This is my first post. I just wanted to register my disbelief over what SONOS have done. Its clear that most of the postings here are made by people who really know and understand the technology but its really frightening when like me you don't. I just purchased £2500 worth of SONOS kit and had it fitted by the dealer I bought it from. I am not naïve enough not to understand the concept of software updates but it the relatively young age of these products that is causing me to worry. On a practical note I assume I will need to replace my Play 3 speakers with Play 5 as it looks to me as if play 3 is no longer available. At £500 each 30% discount is not going to cut it.

This is simply a corporate mistake where manufacturing costs have been kept to a minimum and now customers are expected to cover the resulting costs by purchasing new equipment. I estimate that the works cost for a £500 retail price product would be ££125, lets say £150 to be sure. The new discounted price to me will be £350 a profit of £225. Why SONOS do you not work on a works cost plus 10% You will benefit from increased manufacturing volume and not take your customers to be complete mugs which is just how I feel. the mistake of course was purchasing SONOS in the first place and that is my responsibility. I am attracted to top end brands and have never been let down by them…..until now.

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 11:54 AM UTC

I don’t think that it is hysteria when I have to pay over £700 to keep my system up-to-date with nothing new to show for it. Next it is Play 1 and Play 3 Gen1 that is going to be another £500 from my pocket to keep a system working! It is the reality nothing else and it is not acceptable!

 

Niaccurshi: You just dont get it. So sad.

I’m in exactly the same position as the person you’ve quoted, in fact by the sounds of it even more likely to be struck by future legacy product announcements. But I also understand that the hardware is fine, and that as long as there is a solution to allow streaming of music across from modern systems to legacy systems, that this will mean I won’t have to upgrade or get rid of any of my existing products. That’s the most important news we can get, not some fantastical “70% discount” demands.

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