Oh, 20% or so for a new one (less for demo/ lightlly used).

@sonos problems 

If you are in the US  you might consider Bestbuy “open box”. I’ve purchased a Sonos sub as such at 17% off and haven’t had a complaint.

Don’t remember on my Arcs, but certainly both my Subs were open box purchases at Best Buy. Both have worked flawlessly since purchase. IMHO, there’s some value there, most people seem to return items because they can’t figure out how to use them. I am always careful to factory reset any device purchased as a ‘open box’, perhaps as I am paranoid, but it’s easier to add a new device to my system.

Ok, well, no new Arc was announced or released in 2023, so this can be closed or abandoned, whatever happens.  
 

Hopefully there is at least some news/announcement this year/24 about the next Arc and a thread is created when that happens. 
 

Thanks all.