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Airplay 2 Support

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Delighted to see AirPlay 2 support annouced. However, bubble well and truely burst by twitter support confirming it only works on newest devices - the play5 gen 2, and play base.

Can this be explained further, is it :

(i) Only new devices will support AirPlay 2. So if I have 6 Sonos speakers, 2 of which are play5:gen2, only those 2 will show as airplay speakers?

Or

(ii) You need at least one compatible device in your ecosystem, which acts as a bridge for older devices. So in scenario above, as at least one play5:gen2 is in the mix, all speakers are available.

I am crossing everything that it is (ii)... or there will be a lot of very unhappy people!

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shoturtle

Prodigy III

I am extremely disappointed that Play:1 doesn't support Airplay 2 which I got a pair of Play:1.

Sonos did not clear the differences between Play:1 and One before besides the mic and voice control only. It would be better if you promote as 'advanced hardware' than Play:1. Now I have to get a Sonos One just to get the support of Airplay 2 but only the pair of Play:1 can work as stereo. :S

Nope, Sonos.

Well I would say if you got your play 1 within the last month or so. Or if you brought it from Sonos direct you get Sonos 100 day home trail. Contact Sonos about exchanging them for Sonos ones.

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misanthrope

Trending Lyricist I

I am extremely disappointed that Play:1 doesn't support Airplay 2 which I got a pair of Play:1.

Sonos did not clear the differences between Play:1 and One before besides the mic and voice control only. It would be better if you promote as 'advanced hardware' than Play:1. Now I have to get a Sonos One just to get the support of Airplay 2 but only the pair of Play:1 can work as stereo. :S

Nope, Sonos.

Well I would say if you got your play 1 within the last month or so. Or if you brought it from Sonos direct you get Sonos 100 day home trail. Contact Sonos about exchanging them for Sonos ones.

Thanks for sharing. It may help others here.
However, I bought it at Apple Store and not in the US.

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shoturtle

Prodigy III

I would still contact Sonos if it was recently. They are very helpful even outside the US.

jgatie

I am extremely disappointed that Play:1 doesn't support Airplay 2 which I got a pair of Play:1.

Sonos did not clear the differences between Play:1 and One before besides the mic and voice control only. It would be better if you promote as 'advanced hardware' than Play:1. Now I have to get a Sonos One just to get the support of Airplay 2 but only the pair of Play:1 can work as stereo. :S

Nope, Sonos.

Sonos made it very clear that the only device guaranteed to support Airplay 2 would be the Sonos One.

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chris.wanja

Lyricist III

My whole thing is that maybe I do not WANT speaker with a voice assistance. Nor do I need a Play:5 or a Playbase. But yet Sonos still sells Play:1s (that they admit is 10+ year old technology) that do not support AirPlay 2?

My assumption is that they will update these to a generation 2 and introduce the capability to have AirPlay 2 to a Play:1 that does not require voice assistant.

I am also hopeful of some accessory that can be added on to support it natively. Besides AirConnect which I use today. Minor lag of audio.

2xPlay:1, PlayBar, SUB - Living Room Surround System | Play:3 - Master | Play:1 - Library

Smilja

[...] My assumption is that they will update these to a generation 2 and introduce the capability to have AirPlay 2 to a Play:1 that does not require voice assistant. [...]

I daresay that the Sonos ONE is Play:1 Gen 2. And what about Siri? How would one talk to Siri in the absence of microphones?

»And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)

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Gudd

Lyricist III

Re: The whole 64bit thing, we can speculate till we're blue in the face however I can tell you that a 64bit architecture requirement categorically does not necessarily mean a 32bit device cannot communicate using the protocol in question. Certainly it could, for a number of reasons, not least if there is a requirement to link, statically or otherwise with Apple libraries to do it (that would basically kill 32 bit devices and AP2), but it would even be possible to work around that using a proxy process / service - quite likely not within the Apple Developer / Partner agreement mind. But again a protocol is basically a language that defines how two devices talk to each other and what they will say. Furthermore, it could be that the data they shift about has to be 64bits wide and if it has to arrive at the destination in one piece as a 64bit chunk then that would likely kill it too..

I honestly am not privy to the detail of Airplay 2 since my Apple Developer enrolment expired quite some years ago. Don't get hung up on Apple's deprecation of 32bit however. Yeah, it may be the issue. If my money were on anything however, it would be on the size of free on-board memory for a larger buffer and the processing grunt to get the data into and out of that buffer.

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chris.wanja

Lyricist III

[...] My assumption is that they will update these to a generation 2 and introduce the capability to have AirPlay 2 to a Play:1 that does not require voice assistant. [...]

I daresay that the Sonos ONE is Play:1 Gen 2. And what about Siri? How would one talk to Siri in the absence of microphones?

And if I do not want a speaker with a voice assistant? If that is what they push as generation 2, they will lose ground. Not everyone talks to their devices. Had a Google Home - returned it. Have multiple iOS devices, rarely use Siri. Am not a big enough Amazon user to use Alexa.

2xPlay:1, PlayBar, SUB - Living Room Surround System | Play:3 - Master | Play:1 - Library

Smilja

And if I do not want a speaker with a voice assistant? If that is what they push as generation 2, they will lose ground. Not everyone talks to their devices. Had a Google Home - returned it. Have multiple iOS devices, rarely use Siri. Am not a big enough Amazon user to use Alexa.

I don't think so. Probably in 10 years from now the entire lineup will possess built-in microphones; but for the Connect/ConnectAmp, that is. I would be surprised if that was not considered industry standard by then.

»And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)

jgatie

And if I do not want a speaker with a voice assistant?

Simple. Don't load a voice assistant. If you are especially paranoid, turn off the microphone, which is hardwired to the LED on top, so you will know if it is ever turned on by a hack.

Any other questiions?

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