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Contributor I
May 14, 2019 10:16 PM UTC
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Cannot group Sonos system with Google Home devices

Sonos,

After all this waiting. And after multiple articles. And after multiple phone calls to your service reps (including today), I’m now being told that you cannot group your Sonos system devices with your Google Home devices (after being told for months and more than a year that the aid be able to group them). Even the rep I spoke with today tried to help me and didn’t find out it wasn’t possible until he spoke to a system engineer. You can do it with Amazon devices, but STILL not with Google devices

In all honesty, what is the point of adding Google assistant to Sonos if you can’t even use Sonos speakers with Google Speakers together in a group? It’s pretty useless for me to be in living room, have to get up and walk to my kitchen to say “hey google, play x in my Living Room” and then walk back.
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Ryan S
Ryan SAnswer
Retired Sonos Staff
May 14, 2019 10:50 PM UTC
Hi Roman, sorry to hear it took you so long to find your answers. You're correct, the current integration brings Google Assistant to Sonos devices with built in microphones, and it allows you to control what's playing using Google Home devices. However, Sonos devices and Google devices are unable to be grouped together to play the same thing in sync. Also, there isn't currently the ability to set a Sonos device as a preferred speaker within the Google Home app.

This is just the beginning of our integration with Google Assistant and we're looking forward to making improvements as we go, but I don't have any specifics I can share on what's next, or if either of those things are on the list. We'll be sure to tell everyone when changes are made, so you can always watch out for announcements on our board here, or elsewhere.
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Lyricist II
Jun 25, 2020 9:06 AM UTC

I could see apple buying sonos like they did beats, for several reasons.

One could be that Apple fails with their own line of smart speakers and see sonos speaker technology being a possible addition that will help develop their own ecosystem (like google did with nest). It would be a smart move in my opinion as it would get rid of competition, increase their line of products and acquire all sonos users into the apple world, potentially new users for other apple products. It would also put them as a serious contender agains the big guys Amazon and Google.

The reason whey they would NOT make this move could be that they perhaps actually have some better products coming up that would challenge the sonos speakers or even be a better option. This along with that Sonos doesnt have the same smart home integration and only focus on being a sound system rather than smart home system, a closed network which really isnt optimal for integration with any third party. That would limit sonos future or even diminishing it eventually becoming obsolete like old analog stereos.

 

The future will definitely be the big three, Google, Amazon & Apple.. Where in all this sonos will end up is still uncertain, but my bet is they wont survive on their own..

 

If in fact it was Sonos move to ask google for the integration only show they are not prepared for the future, and as Google has already announced they are preparing a new smart nest speakers that will compete with the sonos one only shows that they see sonos as weak and will probably NOT move towards a full integration rather ditch them all together.

 

I think Sonos will have to make a decision pretty soon rather than later if they want to survive, my best bet is to sell now before no one wants/need them anymore.

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bockersjv
Local Superstar
Jun 25, 2020 10:13 AM UTC

Wow doom and gloom.  Sonos are doing very well with year on year growth and I can see them maintaining a healthy market share.  Can’t see Apple buying them as there is no technology Sonos has that Apple would want for their core products, which is the normal reason they buy companies.

Being able to group and play a common source across different speaker manufacturers with different software and communications protocols is a headache I can’t see any of the players in the market trying to resolve.

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Lyricist II
Jun 25, 2020 10:31 AM UTC

Indeed, Sonos has been doing very well, but thats because they havent had any real competition in the smart speaker market, but that has also changed with more brands making their own. And once the big three start making their own line of decent speakers that can match or even out perform the sonos speakers it wont be easy for Sonos to keep up, mainly as they dont have a smart home system with voice assistance.

And even if Sonos were to try building their own smart home system, like so many others (yes Im looking at you Samsung), I feel that train left a long time ago and I just dont see them ever compete with the big three.

And as you say, the integration between the systems are very complex and will cost too much time and money to develop and relies heavily on a sold long term relationship that rarely last. (Sony Ericsson is a good example)

 

It is just my opinion but for the long term future as we see it develop today I just dont see Sonos maintaining its position as just a solid smart speaker for very long.

 

One idea for sonos would be to drop their own software, put that money into R&D to build even better speakers and beg the big three to help develop a true integration software using their platforms, paying them a royalty.. And maybe, just maybe they are lucky one of the three will say yes, but I doubt it as the they are already on their way to out perform them in hardware anyway..

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Lyricist II
Aug 20, 2020 1:48 AM UTC

I found a workaround that works almost perfectly. If you have a Chromecast you can add that to a homegroup and have your Sonos devices play through that. Oddly it doesn't work with the Shield or the cast enabled tv, just the Chromecast. The only issue is volume. I want the Chromecast at 100% always and control the volume on Sonos devices manually. Hopefully, with the new group controls, they're rolling out I'll be able to lock individual devices at a specific volume soon

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Lyricist I
Oct 28, 2020 10:19 AM UTC

Any feedback from Sonos represented ?
 

I just bought Sonos One with intentions to Welcome Sonos to my Google Ecosystem, really looking forward to enjoy what i have read about, the sound Sonos can deliver to my home, garage, outside my house, where i need new equipment or have existing solutions today.

Beside good sound with some punch, I am looking for better look, active speakers taking less space and also using less equipment, hence smart/active the way forward for me.

What I'm not looking for is to replace my ecosystem, where i use Google Assistant today, with my alarm, cameras, vacuum cleaners, dishwasher, washer, dryer, etc. 


I do need speakers, smart speakers with a punch, what i can read, Sonos can deliver a punch, but if only with there own ecosystem, and not together with for example, google home, in groups with other speakers, i struggle to see how to add Sonos to my home.

 

Hope Sonos can give us some input here.

 

BR.

 

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jgatie
Oct 29, 2020 2:31 PM UTC

It is not possible to group Sonos speakers with Google speakers.

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Lyricist I
Dec 17, 2020 7:23 AM UTC

I am as frustrated as most others about this. I found that JBL is a step ahead of Sonos. JBL link integrates perfectly with Google Nest speakers and groups can be created. I would prefer to buy more Sonos speakers but will not do it until Sonos and Google speakers can be grouped in the Google home app.

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Lyricist I
Dec 18, 2020 4:08 PM UTC

 

Sonos,

After all this waiting. And after multiple articles. And after multiple phone calls to your service reps (including today), I’m now being told that you cannot group your Sonos system devices with your Google Home devices (after being told for months and more than a year that the aid be able to group them). Even the rep I spoke with today tried to help me and didn’t find out it wasn’t possible until he spoke to a system engineer. You can do it with Amazon devices, but STILL not with Google devices

In all honesty, what is the point of adding Google assistant to Sonos if you can’t even use Sonos speakers with Google Speakers together in a group? It’s pretty useless for me to be in living room, have to get up and walk to my kitchen to say “hey google, play x in my Living Room” and then walk back.

I am also frustrated by this. The strange thing is that this actually did work at one point. I have a speaker group in Google home that still contains some Sonos speakers and some of my Google hub displays and nest wifi mesh speakers. I can't delete it or edit it and I've since added more speakers in my new home. It seems strange they would remove this feature. I would love to have this working again since I don't need fancy expensive Sonos speakers in every room in my house but sometimes would like a song to play throughout the entire house. Please add this back Sonos! 

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Lyricist I
Dec 27, 2020 5:12 PM UTC

I am as frustrated as most others about this. I found that JBL is a step ahead of Sonos. JBL link integrates perfectly with Google Nest speakers and groups can be created. I would prefer to buy more Sonos speakers but will not do it until Sonos and Google speakers can be grouped in the Google home app.

Will look closely into this solution and sell my beam and other play:one on the market! Im tired at the lack of integration with my other google devices.

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Lyricist I
Dec 28, 2020 9:17 AM UTC

I’m hoping for Sonos to say something about this soon, a solotion to come very soon.

If not I will also sell my Sonos One’s 

As they do have a usless Google assistant integration

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