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October 28, 2024
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Update on the New Sonos App and Future Features - October 28, 2024

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Update on the New Sonos App and Future Features - October 28, 2024

The latest on the Sonos App from Nick Millington

 

Please also see the latest statement from Nick Millington regarding the app updates.

 

October 28, 2024

 

This is Nick Millington, Chief Innovation Officer, with an update on the Sonos app.

As our CEO Patrick Spence has said, we know that too many of you have experienced significant problems with the new app we introduced in May. Over the past several months, I, together with hundreds of Sonos engineers, have been focused on a singular objective: to improve the Sonos app and overall software experience such that it not only meets, but exceeds the experience of our previous app.

We built the new app to improve our ability to drive innovation and make future updates and improvements when needed. Since its May launch, we have rolled out ongoing updates, and while we will never stop improving our software experience, today I am pleased to share that our new app now surpasses the old one across several important performance metrics: 

 

Issue

Equal to or better than the old app?

“Add Product”/Setup Success rate

✓

“System not found” and “Products not found” errors

✓

Configuring stereo pairs and home theater

✓

App responsiveness

✓

Crash-free sessions

✓

 

The items above correspond to the top issues we heard from you upon release of the new app, as measured by the volume of customer support contacts driven by each. For new customers, the experience of setting up your Sonos system or a new product for the first time is critical, and I’m pleased to share that our success rate here is now the highest we have ever measured, significantly exceeding the previous app. 

Other quality benchmarks – such as eliminating incidents prompting a “something went wrong” message– were not measurable in our previous app yet are today, thanks to improved monitoring capabilities. This means we can now better ensure we’ve not only reached, but will maintain a high quality experience. (Currently, fewer than one percent of app sessions result in a “something went wrong” message.)

Although we are working with urgency to improve the app, we are also mindful of our commitment to roll out change more gradually, and apply more stringent testing. For this reason, moving forward we’ll alternate between major and minor releases, maintaining our momentum of making improvements while also ensuring adequate beta testing.

For example, today’s update is a major one, including significant improvements to system setup and reliability of adding new products, as well as improvements to volume control and responsiveness, and Local Music Library search, sharing and stability. At the same time, some features are still missing. We know that these have devoted users as well, and we are eager to restore them. In November, we’ll roll out performance improvements to Trueplay, Add Product, and general system reliability, at the same time that we beta test missing features targeted for restoration in December. These include:

  • Improved volume control & responsiveness (Android)
  • Playlist editing
  • Album art for music library (Android) 
  • Support for Android users moving between multiple systems 
  • Improved music playback error handling
  • Snooze Alarms

As always, you can also view detailed updates on each new release, including today’s release as well as previous ones, on our Release Notes page. 

Even with improvements made to date, we know that customers will at times still run into issues. That is why we have expanded our Customer Support capacity, adding dozens of trained agents as well as weekend support. If you are still experiencing issues with our app, know that we have a team standing by to help debug or troubleshoot any challenge you are currently facing.

Having recently marked my 21st anniversary at Sonos, I want to express my deep gratitude to you for being a Sonos customer, whether you’re a first-time or long-standing one, and personally commit to you that the next 20 years hold so much more. The ease, reliability, and magic of our products is the most important thing to me and everyone else at Sonos, and the best is yet to come.

You can expect to hear from me again soon with another update on our progress.

 

Looking for the original update on the Sonos app from CEO Patrick Spence? You can find this archived on the Sonos blog.

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127 replies

Lyricist I
October 29, 2024

Nick, 

Thanks for the update. I have one question. The release notes for the current update state the current build for android is 80.11.32. However when I just updated it says my system is updated to 80.11.33. Is that typo or a different build? Thankful..

 

 

Enthusiast II
October 29, 2024

Good to get a thorough update on where we are at.

80.11.33/81.1.58074 (Android)

Got update just now in UK. No problems with install from Playstore. 

More responsive. Navigation between rooms is more reliable.

Is anyone else getting partial Sonos Playlists? I can scroll about first 30 or so then they stop, can see all on iOS. 

 

Prodigy II
October 29, 2024

coincidentally I can confirm the new app update has scan music library working. Just added a few things and it wasn’t working until I remembered I got an update on android. When I updated Sonos on my iPad it worked fine.

"I saw the Stooges and the MC5"
Renowned Enthusiast I
October 29, 2024

All good stuff, Nick, but while your hundreds of engineers are working on the Album Art issue, they might like to think about how other information is displayed on the Now Playing screens. These screenshots show how S and S1 show for a track from a compilation album (100 Eighties Classics/Various Artists) called Get Down On It by Kool & The Gang

 

 

 

The current version shows the track name then Artist then Album Artist.

The old version shows the track name then Artist then the Album name, which is surely what people would prefer.

The same issue occurs with single-artist tracks. I've lost my screenshot example but try it and you will see that the second line shows the Artist's name twice in the latest version. Surely they must have noticed that when testing it?

One of those engineers should surely be able to fix this in time for the promised November update.

Enthusiast I
October 29, 2024

Twice now I’ve left this new version open overnight on my iPad after closing the cover to put it to sleep. Both times the app has been unresponsive in the morning, requiring a forced stop and restart.

On the plus side, I’ve yet to see one of those ugly “no products found” pop-ups. And I’ve so far been unable to reproduce that weird snap-back effect with the volume slider that prior versions were prone to.

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
October 29, 2024

I’m guessing that the claims are based on today’s release.

80.11.32 (Android)

80.11.38 (iOS)

Release date: 28/10/2024

Which is not available to me yet.

Can someone please tell me when I will be able to test it?

It all depends on when Google has it in the Play Store for your system. I got it today with no problem, the last update I waited for several days after some folks saw it until it was available here.

Lyricist I
October 30, 2024

The most disappointing thing through all of this is the tone the Sonos execs keep taking here. They keep trying to put a positive spin on everything and it communicates how out of touch they are with reality. I still can't search in the new app. I get the "something went wrong" screen everytime. Yes, I updated to today's build and it didn't fix the issue. I've also completely deleted all app data and it didn't help. This has been going on for months. I downgraded every speaker but one to S1 (which really felt like an upgrade) so my system would be usable again and left one speaker on the new app so I could track it's progress. I'm about ready to just give up and stick with S1 and eventually replace my system with something other than Sonos.

Contributor I
October 30, 2024

The most disappointing thing through all of this is the tone the Sonos execs keep taking here. They keep trying to put a positive spin on everything and it communicates how out of touch they are with reality. I still can't search in the new app. I get the "something went wrong" screen everytime. Yes, I updated to today's build and it didn't fix the issue. I've also completely deleted all app data and it didn't help. This has been going on for months. I downgraded every speaker but one to S1 (which really felt like an upgrade) so my system would be usable again and left one speaker on the new app so I could track it's progress. I'm about ready to just give up and stick with S1 and eventually replace my system with something other than Sonos.

 

They are not out of touch with reality — I’m pretty sure they are VERY aware of the reality, which is why they’ve pushed out 17-odd updates in the last 5 months or so.  Clearly they are also aware that the situation is not perfect for everyone but it is a positive trajectory of gradual improvements for the vast majority of people.  As indicated above Sonos have the telemetry from many thousands of users to track this.  This is not a positive spin, just the situation as it is.  There will always be ‘edge cases’, and I may be wrong but I don’t think the inability to search is common.  Have you tried contacting m support as I’m guessing they would be interested in exploring the cause of the difficulties you are having ? 

Headliner I
October 30, 2024

The most disappointing thing through all of this is the tone the Sonos execs keep taking here. They keep trying to put a positive spin on everything and it communicates how out of touch they are with reality. I still can't search in the new app. I get the "something went wrong" screen everytime. Yes, I updated to today's build and it didn't fix the issue. I've also completely deleted all app data and it didn't help. This has been going on for months. I downgraded every speaker but one to S1 (which really felt like an upgrade) so my system would be usable again and left one speaker on the new app so I could track it's progress. I'm about ready to just give up and stick with S1 and eventually replace my system with something other than Sonos.

As far as I can tell, you're in the dwindling pool of customers that Sonos has demonstrated they're ready to write off. In your shoes, I would totally replace every piece of their equipment.

Contributor I
October 30, 2024

Sonos user for a long time, it’s amazing prior to this new App I never had any issues! Boy since then then system has had nothing but problems. The sad thing is Sonos has told there was a problem my phone, my  iPad, also recommended that I buy Boosters which I did at my expense to be told I didn’t need them. They are now blaming my Router, what next Mr Sonos?

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