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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Enthusiast I
    January 22, 2020

    I’ve contacted Ars Technica.  I’m beyond pissed.

    Sonos user since 2008. (3) Connects, (2) Connect Amps, (2) Play 1, (2) Play 3s, (1) Play 5, (1) Arc, (1) Sub, (1) Symfonisk
    January 22, 2020

    I haven’t read the whole thread, but assume this may have already been posted?

    Obviously not suggesting any link to the current announcement.

    Sonos Product Manager sells some of his shares

     

    Sonos - you really are shooting yourselves in the foot with this announcement and lack of legacy support. Suggesting that I can have a discount to spend well over £1000 on Sonos kit to keep it working as it does now (some of which is running through excellent hifi kit which is still manufacturer supported despite it being well over 30 years old) - really? You’ve got to be kidding guys.

     

     

    The link looks pretty clear cut. 

    I doubt it. This was a scheduled trade, a common practice for executive insiders so that they can trade legally around SEC blackout dates.

     

    https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/sono/insider-activity

    Fair enough. This much is true though…

     

    almost 9,000,000 shares sold versus 100,000 purchased by insiders in past 12 mo - what does that say?

    The majority of those 9M were from a very early stage investor (Index Ventures / Michael Volpi). On that Nasdaq link, filter the list to just sales and you see who is doing the selling vs. the automatic selling.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    As an early adopter, and until last week still a cheerleader for Sonos to my friends, I am incredibly disappointed in the discontinuation of support for the Sonos Play: 5 (gen 1).

    I currently own 4 Play:3's, 6 Play:1's, a Sonos Beam, a Play:5, Playbar, and 4 Amps. Plus a Boost, which I recently upgraded on Sonos's request, but my expense, from a Bridge. My entire house is set up with Sonos equipment, and I enthusiastically support it to guests when asked about it.

    If this discontinuation of support is not rescinded, I will sadly never purchase another piece of Sonos equipment ever again.

    Increase market share by selling upgrades of products that make us want to voluntarily upgrade -- not by discontinuing support of perfectly good hardware that cost many hundreds or thousands of dollars to purchase.

    Renowned Enthusiast I
    January 22, 2020

    How long before ALL Connects are defined as Legacy? Or the earlier Play:1’s? 

    Sonos have always downplayed the internal changes whenever someone noticed a slight change on an existing model. Seems those changes were more significant than they are letting on?

    My trust in Sonos is simply gone - this is an extraordinarily sad day for what was once such a reliable and (comparatively) trustworthy brand.

     

    You can use this to make an educated guess

     

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    This is Sonos own words on their website….. haha really!!! Ethical and sustainable…. for who?

    Responsibility

    We plan on being in business a long time, which means we must be responsible, forward-thinking citizens. We’re committed to ethical and sustainable practices and strive to positively affect our community.

     

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    What next Sonos, That's a $4k expense that I havent budgeted for…

     

    I think its disgusting how this impacts the long term supports of the system.  Marketing for the products did not mention that support for the products would be withdrawn.

     

     

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    In one fell swoop, Sonos has turned its most loyal customers (the ones that have been supporting them since the beginning) into haters.

    I would never buy any kind of audio gear that only has a five year lifespan, nor can I continue adding to my Sonos system now that you have lost my trust.

    Game over Sonos!

    The next comparable vendor that addresses our concerns will take us all as customers.

    i will now actively look for alternatives for my many sonos devices and aim to replace my sonos system with something with less risk over time.

    furious ex-customer

     

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Nothing new to add to the already robust discussion, just wanted to add my voice to the choir of disenfranchised users.

    I bought my Play:5 in 2015 and if I’d known that I would get just under 5 years of use from it, I wouldn’t have purchased it at all.

    Like many others have already said, I was a vocal supporter of Sonos to friends and family.  I certainly won’t be recommending them any more and I won’t give this company another dollar now that they’ve shown what sort of relationship they intend to have with their customers. 

    Enthusiast II
    January 22, 2020

    i suggest anyone looking to keep their speakers should crowd fund the development of their own app that will allow them to take control of their own speakers that they own

    Linux already has one.

    Sonos from leader to loser in 2020.
    Avid Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    How come there is an announcement about Sonos connect not being supported but is still available to purchase in retail shops here in Australia? Isn't that a bit unethical? 

    https://www.harveynorman.com.au/sonos-connect-wireless-streaming-adapter.html?CAWELAID=720013240000354670&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAiA35rxBRAWEiwADqB374DcWe60lcU2732NL5AmiggiEgyZ1ixq6gNCDI_FS2feHag6xslJexoCtM4QAvD_BwE

    Living room: Playbar | Dining: Play 5 | Bedroom: Sonos One