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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    I can’t keep up with this, so many post in such a short time. To be honest I’m 

    beyond angry. As a previous post mentioned the environmental effects alone is a PR blunder of supernova. And what cost this has had to future loyalty even if they have a change of heart. But the silence is deafening from sonos. And something else how many retailers have old stock of these products that will be useless. The way things are going sonos shouldn’t worry about google and worry about a class action being brought.

    arcadelt
    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    This is NUTS!  You want me to replace 16 devices?  You are only offering a 30% discount?  See how I am affected.  I am livid!  I obviously have been a HUGE supporter and now you do this?

     

     

     

    Connect (ZP90) Living Room
     
    Connect (ZP90) Billiards Room
     
    Connect (ZP90) Home Theater
     
    Connect (ZP90) Master Bathroom
     
    Connect (ZP90) Kitchen
     
    Connect (ZP90) Pool
     
    Connect (ZP90) Patio
     
    Connect (ZP90) Kitchen TV
     
    Connect (ZP90) Gym
     
    Connect (ZP90) Dining Room
     
    Connect (ZP90) Master Bedroom
     
    Connect (ZP90) Driveway
     
    Bridge
     
    Connect Garage
     
    Connect Study
     
    Play:5 (Gen 1) Roof
     

     

    Ouch! I thought I was in a bad place.

    SONOS, you really need to consider some form of dedicated one-on-one support to those high yield customers, like this guy, that built your company and are being disproportionally affected by this decision.

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

     

    Thirdly, I purchased a Play:5 and Play:3 at the same time - their design is similar - i.e. from the same period, and I suspect connection circuitry, (besides the amp) is identical. BUT the Play:3 is not on the list of items about to become redundant. Why? Because the Play:3 is still "current". So it is absolute rubbish when Sonos say they are forced to discontinue support because of hardware limitations.

    A very good point! How can a speaker that came out during the same period continue to be updated and the other one not be! 


    Crazy isn’t it, my Play:3s are showing as modern also, despite the fact they were purchased at the same time as lot’s of Play:5s.

    And I really pushed the boat out financially to buy the Play:5s, thought I was being clever, as they had to be better!

    Having said that, I dare say the Play:3s will hit ‘expiry date’ very soon too. Sad.
     

    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    If you want to make more money, how about designing new compelling and innovative products that people actually want to buy? Business 101!

    Could you imagine if Tesla bricked their vehicles after 5 years?

     

    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Bad news for me and likely to send me moving to a different system. I have about a dozen products and the last few times an upgrade happened I lost some basic functionality (like adding to or searching my music library) until all devices updated. Last time my internet connection dropped in the middle of an upgrade (cable problems, not SONOS) and left the entire system dead until I had internet again, then it took hours of troubleshooting and removing devices and adding them back, one by one, to restore everything (I think that’s on SONOS). That leaves me wondering if anything is really going to work when they kill support.

    I checked the trade-in program, but even at 30% off that’s a lot of money, and of course prices just went up. I also pass down my older equipment to my sons and their trade-in-and-die policy of disabling older units after 21 days means I can’t do that. Finally, I am not sure what the updates have done for me, since I don’t care about voice or Amazon integration. I did replace my old Bridge with a Boost but did not notice any difference in performance. I thought about upgrading my Connections to Ports before Christmas but my email query about what had changed technically (higher resolution, greater sampling rate, any specs?) went unanswered so I let it go. Not knowing the price would jump after Christmas, when I had bills to pay…

    I’ve had SONOS for many years but this just leaves me with a really bad feeling. I understand they cannot support products forever, but I have a couple of speakers in their boxes from a few years ago waiting on some room finishing that are listed as obsolete. It feels like they are trying to boost revenue at the cost of their current customer base. I have not the funds to update everything, I’ll cross my fingers it works in June and start looking at alternatives.

    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Hi - It appears I have 8 legacy products that will expire. If I were to upgrade, can you give me an idea as to how long I should expect service before the next universal expiration? I appreciate the quick response.

    Loyal customer.

       

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Hi,

    This is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard from you.

    I have been a happy Sonos customers for years (in fact so many years that most of my products are old enough to be affected), but now I really need to question your company ethics.

    If I read your message correctly, the perfectly functioning good products will over time become useless. This a disastrous decision from the ecological point of view.

    And a 30% discount to buy more when I am totally happy with my totally functioning products. You must be kidding! 

    I sincerely hope you will change your mind. If you don’t, you can be certain that I will never buy a new Sonos product again.

    Best Regards,

    Matias

    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    I’ve used Sonos since 2009 and recommended it to others until recent years when I decided it wasn't good business sense to keep investing in your products for my home.  

    I made an account on this thread just say that I will definatly not be supporting this company anymore.  

    There are much more cost effective alternatives nowadays to this overpriced (and now apparently obsolete) equipment.  

    I’ve been looking for a good reason to switch and this is it!  I hope others follow.  I’ll continue using what I have until it stops working and then do something else!  I hope others do the same thing!

    ***SONOS: FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE YOUR STUFF WORK!!!***

    Some of us have thousands invested and hope you get this problem fixed and/or face a lawsuit.  The future, in my opinion, is not looking well for your company at this time.

    Thanks,

    Disappointed and irritated, but not surprised

    Avid Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I wouldn’t fancy being Ryan S at this point.

    Ryan have you any alternative job options?  Might be more fun?!

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Dear Mr Spence.

    Today is a sad day for me.  I've fallen out of love with one of my favourite products and I can see no way back.

    I've been a loyal advocate of Sonos speakers for the last 7 years, have championed them with family and friends, installed them for customers and of course listened with great pleasure at home.

    I have worked hard and saved hard to build up my Sonos collection to 18 speakers and have always enjoyed finding new ways to 'fill my house with music'.

    After today's announcement however, and the tone with which it was delivered, I will never buy or recommend another Sonos product again. I felt disgust in the fact that you are effectively telling me that I can no longer keep my system updated unless I brick products which are less than 5 years old and buy new ones at 70% of the cost again.  In addition, there appears to be no concern to the amount of electronic waste that the environment will suffer because of this.

    I strongly urge you to mobilise your management team to rectify the issue of legacy support as soon as possible, otherwise I fear, (sadly) that this will be my last communication with your company.