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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    So if they introduce a new revised spec Play 5 this year, the gen 2 you may upgrade to in the coming weeks will soon be on a 5 year countdown to obsolescence in a few months.

     

    Totally agree, and that’s not what we’d signed up for when we put our hard earned money into Sonos.

    If this is the way the ‘connected’ world is going to go with technology companies, I think I’ll be starting to disconnect a little more.

    Such a shame, I’ve loved my Sonos system, until now. Tick Tock.

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Something tells me Ryan S. hates his job right about now...

    Something tells me Ryan S is looking for a new job right about now…

     

     

    Sadly for him, his employers have just hit the self-destruct button. Just look at that share price plummet!

     

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    This is the best news I cold have received - was about to extend my system with 2 additional units.  Sonos have saved me money.  I can’t believe how so many people are accepting this……. advice being given to run 2 separate networks - this will increase in years to come.  I can see 3 or 4 systems running concurrently with an ever increasing number of legacy products.  

    Ryan - please pass on to Sonos that I will be declaring myself a legacy client in the near future.  I feel ripped off. 

     

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Add me to your rapidly growing list of disgruntled customers who will never buy another sonos device unless this is fixed

    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    Hey Ryan, thanks for the update...even if it’s not happy news.

     

    A few questions.  If I chose option 1, will I need to do anything to my system to prevent updates, or will the presence of these legacy products prevent updates from occurring

     

    Will legacy versions of the the Sonos controller apps be made available?  And if so, will it possible to revert a system back to this legacy version if their devices are already on a higher version?

     

    Related to above, will it be possible to operate two Sonos systems, one current and one legacy, under the same network?  (Understanding that you won’t be able to use some accounts, like voice services, on both systems)

     

    What level of support will be available for those who chose to stay on a legacy system?   Understanding that software updates will not be an issue, but if there are setup questions or network interference issues, will Sonos provide assistance?

     

    Hiya, I’m sure most people wouldn’t disagree, they bought great speakers even though they cost a lot of money, but they didn’t expect them to become out of date, yes some may stop working after “X” number of years that’s only to be expected, but for Sonos to basically turn them into bricks is despicable, as suggested by melvimbe, why doesn’t Sonos provide a “Legacy sonos” app. so people can continue to use their existing system without having to pay out a lot more money on the forever upgrading train, when I bought my Play 5 a number of years ago there was nothing on the box saying it had a software life, if that had been the case I wouldn’t have invested in that or the subsequent ones.

    It’s fine to say you don’t have to upgrade the app but these things always somehow update!

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Here is a question that needs an answer.  

    If I upgrade my phone 2-3 years from now, will I be able to install a older version of the app that will allow me to control my system if I stop getting updates in May?

    Or is Sonos forcing me to keep an old tablet with the old app on it as a controller?

    @Matt - MKE, when you wind up replacing your phone, you will still be able to get the app that works with a legacy system.

     

     

    Now that’s a response that deserves a screen shot for the future.

     

    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    As been said already send the ceo an email, still waiting a reply tho. But as things stand another customer lost and already looking at alternatives. And just look at there share price falling faster than a stone in water. So long and thanks for the fish.

     

    Please post CEO’s email

    The CEOs email address is 

     

    patrick.spence@sonos.com

     

    ive emailed him but I'm not expecting a reply !!

    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Are you listening Sonos? What a terrible way to treat customers. What a terrible business model! 

     

    I installed Sonos throughout my house five years ago. I purchased 2 connects at that time… I’m now told one is legacy and one is not. So, just a crapshoot if you buy a product that is a tad older?? 

     

    And if I don’t disconnect or replace that one older Connect, none of my Sonos products will update after May? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!!!

     

     

     

    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    For me it’s less than four years. Only three for two of the products, two for the Portable 4. And no way to get pricing unless you commit to killing your current products, which is really sneaky.

    Chromatic Producer I
    January 21, 2020

    Here is a question that needs an answer.  

    If I upgrade my phone 2-3 years from now, will I be able to install a older version of the app that will allow me to control my system if I stop getting updates in May?

    Or is Sonos forcing me to keep an old tablet with the old app on it as a controller?

    @Matt - MKE, when you wind up replacing your phone, you will still be able to get the app that works with a legacy system.

     

     

    Now that’s a response that deserves a screen shot for the future.

     


    Perhaps it will work until May next year ;-)