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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Sonos’ offer of 30% trade in value is an insult. I’ve been a strong supporter of Sonos for years.

    My Most recent addition to my system was purchased less than 30 days ago. If I had any Idea that Sonos would treat customers this way I certantly would have not continued to add to my home system.

    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    The Upgrade – By the Numbers

     

    Just ran the numbers [details at the end of the post]. I’ve spent $7800 dollars with Sonos over about 15-18 years. I own about $2700 of stuff that is “new” and about $4100 of stuff that is now no longer supported. With a 30% discount, it will cost $4060 + tax to bring the no longer supported items up to date by replacing them with the similar new item. Per Sonos, this buys me maybe 5 years of useful life. This for a system that isn’t broken. 

     

    What Sonos doesn’t understand is that there is HBR business case after business case that show that when you take care of your most valuable customers, they will take care of you. Will I upgrade a couple of zones? Maybe. Will I tell friends how great Sonos is? Definitely not. Will I be a detractor and tell people to avoid Sonos at all costs? Maybe. Congrats, Sonos, you turned a lot of people from Champions to Detractors with a single move. 

     

    Details of my numbers:

    Purchased over approx. 18 years: 7 x ZP100 ($2800); 2 remotes ($600); 2 x ZP80 ($800); 2 Subs ($1400); 2 x Play 5 ($900); 3 x Play 1 ($600); Sound Bar ($700) – Total = $7800

    Cost to upgrade: 6 x ZP100 ($2730); 2 x ZP80 ($630); 2 x Play 5 ($700) – total = $4060

     

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Feeling the backlash Sonos? Either you back off from this poorly thought through decision or you better call your crisis management firm. These are your most loyal customers talking to you. 

    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    This is a joke. I’m not inclined to replace my legacy Sonos equipment with new Sonos simply because of software updates. The hardware is in perfect working order and it’s a complete waste of resources to replace it until it breaks. I will not be buying Sonos again if future software updates can’t cope with legacy or mixed configuration setups.:rage:

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Feeling the backlash Sonos? Either you back off from this poorly thought through decision or you better call your crisis management firm. These are your most loyal customers talking to you. 

    No kidding!  This is a PR disaster for Sonos. I must have been responsible for 10 families making big investments in Sonos products. Now I am going to be bad mouthing them every chance I get. 

    January 21, 2020

    Legacy system announcement 21/01/2020, complain to the CEO:

    Patrick.Spence@sonos.com

    SALES Team: sales-eu@sonos.com    

    January 21, 2020

    Legacy system announcement 21/01/2020, complain to the CEO:

    Patrick.Spence@sonos.com

    SALES Team: sales-eu@sonos.com

     

    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    I have 13 old zones, but i will never upgrade them with new ones. Sorry Sonos you lost a customer.

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    What a customer hostile way to approach this. The only significant features the new speakers offer are voice control via Amazon or Google (no way I want open mics to those two in my house), and AirPlay 2. Sonos main strength was it brought all music services into one interface and allowed us to play music from a shared console rather than exclusively from one device (key for families). Without that, there’s no benefit over AirPlay 2 or Chromecast. Their speakers sound great too, but that’s not a differentiator.

    There’s no reason Sonos can’t release an optional dedicated device to offload the compute from the legacy devices and eliminate this problem. It’s honestly surprising that they haven’t done this already. Decouple the compute required for modern services from the speakers themselves. This dedicated device would store your account info, wifi connection, music services, music library, etc, and provide the processing power for modern services. It’d only be required if you have legacy devices in your Sonos system.

    Yes please.  This seems like a very simple solution that would generate revenue and keep loyal customers happy.  I would very gladly give them my money for this device you and others have suggested.

     

    I hope Sonos is listening.

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Just at a time when big business is trying to go more “green”, SONOS don’t care if our speakers are junk in a year or two :fearful: