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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    Again, I’ve got 6 ZP80s  + 2 Play 5s (version 1) dotted around a large Victorian house connected to existing home cinema Av receivers, portable hifi, bathroom ceiling speakers etc. No real need to upgrade because they all work fine if I want to play music around the house.

     

    Even with the discount, upgrading (if you can call it that) to the Port would cost £280 a piece and the new Play 5s £350. How long before those are classed as legacy?

     

    Access to music has changed in recent years as well as the type of music I want to listen to, many more devices now offer airplay 2, I can stream YouTube on smart TVs as well as other options available.
     

    My existing Sonos setup just works. I don’t really need any new features to my existing Sonos setup to improve on what I’ve got or want it to do.

     

    Blowed if I going to invest mega bucks on a whole new setup for it to be ‘trashed’ again by Sonos in the few years
     

     

    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    I was sceptical about the trade up offer in the last quarter of 2019 and wondered where it was going ……. BOOM …. there we have it.

    I like many others bought a heap of sonos in the beginning (2009) , then my dad did the same as he  loved it so much he kitted his whole house out with it in 2010. Mainly connects and connect Amps we both have.

    i understand that like early Apple products and windows software things move on and that current technologies can’t work with older ones but surely you can’t prevent any ones new sonos equipment from being upgraded with new software and not able to work with the legacy products. I have a mix of legacy and new and for me to trade up it’s going to cost approximately £1500 …… I’ve just spent £400 on a sonos beam in the last 12 months!!!! As for my dad he’ll be around £2K !!!! 
     

    It seems a great way to create extra revenue!!! I wish my business was this clever 😡

    I’m sure there’s plenty others which will agree that there should be a bigger trade up discount !!! 
     

    I like many others in the beginning actually acted as salesmen for Sonos , spreading the word to friends and family who actually bought your products and supported you and this is our thanks.

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Complain to the CEO: Patrick.Spence@sonos.com

    This is absolutely unacceptable both on customer service, sustainability and environmental factors.

    Absolutely outraged and clearly profits over ethics here.

    Complain and/or take your business elsewhere.

     

    Thank you.
    Email sent.

    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    If you guys go somewhere else, what speakers would you be purchasing?  What other brands continue to support their speakers forever?  I know Bose does not.  Just curious, as I recently purchased a Sonos Beam, Sub and 2 Gen 2 One’s.  I did not see anything out their that had similar support to what Sonos has and if there is something better that will be supported long term would like to know about it.

    I think my current system, when it does go obsolete will continue playing - right?  Hopefully, soon Sonos will be releasing a Playbar with HDMI and Atmos, but who knows....

    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    A desperate move by what I assume is a desperate company.   Bankrupt by end of 2020 is my call.  Picked up my first piece of Sonos kit in 2004.  Sorry way to see things end.  As with this announcement, its sell all my Sonos gear time (legacy or new).  Hopefully have some local buyers for the subs and heavier pieces of kit.

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    There was no mention that these devices were only good for ten years in the documentation when I bought them. Nor that by purchasing additional products since that they too would be rendered useless by the older unit on my system. 

    In my case the Play 5 was my first (massive) investment and the core of my system, it has now been augmented over the years with 3 x play 1’s. I couldn’t fault it - until now! - Greed makes many companies forget their customer care concepts, but when a company such as Sonos only ever got into the market by using this and product unique features, it is difficult to perceive why they would abandon both in one fell swoop.

    Whoever decided that the replacement deal is a good value solution has alienated me, and I am sure many others.

    Good luck with the future Sonos, it will be without me! There are too many solid equivalents out there for me to be messed around like this. 

    Wish I had never changed from Bose - a true market leader with solid products and reputation that is not in tatters by bad corporate decisions.

     

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I will likely stick with my 3 legacy products but will not buy anything new if it can’t be incorporated into my current system. If I lose ability to have any of the streaming services I use, Sonos will be dumped and I will look elsewhere. Sonos had better find a way to allow new products to work in a system with legacy products (including new product updates) or many people will move on, or at least no longer add new devices. As well, legacy products are still in stores. I wonder how many people recently purchased connects that won’t be supported in a few months.
    I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed another company lose so much of their good reputation in one release!

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    So this sucks. Basically, Sonos announced that they are bricking the 2009 version products they sold me in 2013 with 4 months' notice. That's $2,000 that will be made useless in just a mere 4 months. 

    In exchange, I’m told to buy $2,000 in their “new versions” to replace them. After their 30% off discount -- about the same cost as their Black Friday sale --  I will have to pay Sonos $1,400 for the “privilege” of continuing to use their product. 

    I wasn’t planning to pay an additional $1,400 this year to continue to enjoy the investment of $5,000 I have made in them over the past 8 years. This is how they thank me? 

    But I’m seeing this -- Google Home Max for $250 each.  I guess it is time to say good-bye to Sonos.  

    Was this why their Chief Product Officer Nicholas Millington sold 1/3 of his remaining stock in Sonos on January 2, 2020? I can’t believe he didn’t know this announcement was going to happen.  https://rivertonroll.com/news/2020/01/15/nicholas-millington-sells-36453-shares-of-sonos-inc-nasdaqsono-stock-updated.html

    January 21, 2020

    Complain to the CEO:

    Patrick.Spence@sonos.com

    SALES Team: sales-eu@sonos.com      

    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I have 9 amps and a play 5 at home, 14 amps and two play 5 at the office.

    WTF!!!!!!!!

    Any suggestions for a replacement?