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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Enthusiast I
    January 22, 2020

    Please can you explain why you misled people by saying only 10 weeks ago on Twitter that “We have no plans to suddenly make these devices obsolete. We're simply offering our users an eco-friendly way to upgrade their older players.” 

     

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    Absolutely shocking- and have you seen the filing? They know what customers expect, and know this will damage them, but go ahead anyway. Sonos lost me as a customer, and if I had stock I would be offloading it immediately.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    In the last 5 years, I’ve spent nearly $6,000 on Sonos devices. After their last stunt, deprecating most functionality from the Windows app, making it impossible for me to do most functions (although not the usual common ones) unless I buy an Android device and install there… this is a bit ridiculous. I hope some competitor swoops in to grab all these Sonos customers looking for a company that actually cares about their customers. YES, I would glady spend another $6k to get OUT of the Sonos environment, and into one that does exactly what Sonos did 2 years ago, when all the devices worked, were supported, and I could do everything from my computer. They really did it this time.

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    Calling in artillery on yourself, Sonos?  Welcome to someone’s business school case study of dumb management decisions. It takes years to earn customer enthusiasm for a product, and one email to turn that completely into the opposite direction. 
     

    Truly amazing.
     

    I have 14 products over 2 homes. My primary home has 5 out of 6 products that are affected. None are affected in the vacation home.  I was thinking about buying a Move that I could take between primary and vacation house. What happens when I drop in a product that has updates into a system has legacy equipment.

    What happens if I want or need to replace a product in my legacy system?  Do products that ship later in the year cause a problem in a system laced with legacy equipment 

     

    if I decide to roll the dice and not upgrade my gear, and in a year or two I need to replace a piece of hardware, will the discount still be around?  How long will it be offered? 

     

    I can’t add anything that has been said already, so count me among those who are extremely upset with this news. Replacing 3 connects, 1 zone amp, and one play 5 is a check I don’t want to write. BluSound please offer a carrot to Sonos users. 

    Renowned Enthusiast I
    January 22, 2020

    Please can you explain why you misled people by saying only 10 weeks ago on Twitter that “We have no plans to suddenly make these devices obsolete. We're simply offering our users an eco-friendly way to upgrade their older players.” 

     

    The same type of reply was repeated by Sonos employees and syncophants hundreds of times in these forums when this issue came up repeatedly re recycle program.

    melvimbe
    January 22, 2020

    Did anyone from Sonos tell IKEA about this?

    IKEA have 433 stores around the world selling the new Symfonisk speakers made in conjunction with SONOS when will they become legacy?

    This could be trouble!

    I’m sure that around one billion customers who visited IKEA stores in 2019 won’t be buying them when they find out!

     

    Why?  The IKEA speakers are supported.  I’m sure there are some with legacy products and IKEA, but I’m not sure what is unique about that group of customers.  Are you implying that potential IKEA customers are going to assume that their IKEA  speakers will lose support 5 years from now, with a 30% discount on buying a replacement,  and that will drive them away?   

    Danny
    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    I wonder how long this has been in the works? I take it the ‘recycle mode’ was contained in an update. Anyway that’s me finished with Sonos.

     

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020
    someone who can recommend the best system to replace my Sonos. It will definitely not be Sonos again. Arhh maybe we should start a new thread about this? 
    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    This makes me much less likely to buy Sonos products. I was considering buying a Sub but won’t do that now and have just spoken to a colleague who was considering buying a full Sonos system for his new house but, following this announcement, probably won’t be doing so.

     

    Who would spend thousands of pounds on high quality audio kit in the knowledge that it may well have a lifespan of only a few years?

     

    I also can’t see the technical justification. It seems like a way for Sonos to try to force people to buy new products.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Question for tech folks on this thread: 

    Can you imagine a creative solution where some type of inexpensive dongle could be attached to the older legacy devices with enough processing and memory to enable ongoing updates? Maybe leveraging Raspberry Pi or similar? Not sure how the I/O would work with the Sonos component?

     

    All this is pending your taste in quality of music…. If you care more about money instead of quality, then….If replacing a Connect:Amps or a dedicated Sonos speaker like the Play1,3,5, I’d recommend getting a $30 Echo Dot to control and zone them with a 3.5mm output going into a separate $30 amp like this cheap one from Amazon:

    https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Stereo-Mini-Amplifier/dp/B07W46QV5J?ref_=BSellerC&pf_rd_p=c305f8d1-9b05-501e-84a5-d05e840f2085&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=537344&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=ZAYZXRC7KK1GH76HTKMQ&pf_rd_r=ZAYZXRC7KK1GH76HTKMQ&pf_rd_p=c305f8d1-9b05-501e-84a5-d05e840f2085

     

    The Echo Dot doesn’t have ALL the streaming services and quality that the Sonos has, but it has voice control, and at least it’s a less expensive device if/when it gets left behind like this again. A standalone amp and speakers will last until they die. Obviously, get a better amp if you like better quality, YMMV.

     

    If replacing a Connect, then all you really need is the Echo Dot with the 3.5mm output. Bought on their normal sales, you could buy around 15 Echo Dots for one Sonos:Connect. Let that sink in….

     

    They may go out of date over time as well, but at least you’re only replacing a $30 streaming device. Lesson learned.