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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Just wow, 

     

    To think right now people are buying Sonos equipment in shops without knowing that their equipment, in a couple of years may also be deemed obsolete. 

    I hope this gets media attention fast. It should. I’ve already used social media to warn people off buying these things. 

    It’s frankly absurd that the can’t update old products a few years old and even more absurd they will stop updating your new devices if you keep using you r perfectly functioning devices. 

    If that isn’t blackmail what is? 

     

    Also why havnt the old Sonos 1 been given  the same treatment? I’m guessing because they know they are most sold units and want people to add to these with more expensive Units. 

    If they can remain ‘modern’ , then why can’t a play 5 or an amp  a few years old be ok. 

    Sonos must think we are stupid. 

     

    Tell your friends. Warn them. Sonos can no longer be trusted. 

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    Anyone know how to identify a new Connect v an old one via serial numbers or anything else?

    I'm in the same boat as you...  I just purchased my connect less than 30 days ago at best buy.. . My box says 2018 on the bottom and my connect itself has the model # s15

    I believe the s15 is the newest model as its STILL BEING SOLD ON THE SONOS SITE AND AT BESTBUY. 

    The problem is, I STILL received an email telling me it's a Legacy product.. Lol

    Sonos is really screwing this up.. I try to call on the phone several times yesterday and the static on the phone makes it so you can't hear anything... 

    Idiots! 

     

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    They could easily have broken up the firmware into two codebases.

    Modern

    Legacy

    Modern - if you have a sonos network of devices that are all classed “modern”, your firmware gets updated with all the latest features and software enhancements.

    Legacy - you get to keep all the features you currently have, and a commitment to backport patches/fixes for existing streaming services that may change overtime to maintain that functionality. If major changes/updates are required to keep a specific streaming service active, support for that service may be removed from legacy. But we will always endeavour to try and find a solution first, and if one exists to provide it to our loyal customers. We will also continue backporting security fixes from “modern” to keep your system safe and secure.

    I think most people would have been happy with this compromise. Heck, I think quite a lot of people would be happy to pay a modest annual support fee to help pay for the costs incurred in providing this legacy support.

    Of course, if your goal is to get your customer base to junk all their old devices and buy new models that will last another 5-6 years, my suggestion is a complete non-starter. :grinning:

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    “Our responsibility here is threefold: 1) build products that last a long time ……..”

     

    who would buy SONOS now ??!!

    Avid Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    Is there an alternative on the market I could look at? 

     

    Mostly my speakers are single units but I do have the following groups I like:

     

    Dining Room - two Play 5 in stereo pair with a Turntable into the Line in

    Living Room - Playbar, Sub and two ones set up in a 5.1 configuration

     

     

    January 22, 2020

    To think right now people are buying Sonos equipment in shops without knowing that their equipment, in a couple of years may also be deemed obsolete. 

    I hope this gets media attention fast. It should. I’ve already used social media to warn people off buying these things. 

     

    This isn’t the first such event, preceding ones have been digested. But none have been as big as this one, so perhaps this just may be an inflection point. 

    Only time will tell.

    January 22, 2020

     

    Modern - if you have a sonos network of devices that are all classed “modern”, your firmware gets updated with all the latest features and software enhancements.

    Legacy - you get to keep all the features you currently have, and a commitment to backport patches/fixes for existing streaming services that may change overtime to maintain that functionality. If major changes/updates are required to keep a specific streaming service active, support for that service may be removed from legacy. But we will always endeavour to try and find a solution first, and if one exists to provide it to our loyal customers. We will also continue backporting security fixes from “modern” to keep your system safe and secure.

     

    Well said.

    Something like the above may still be delivered in May - Sonos has not committed in any direction at this point is all that is known, and it is too soon to rule out the above scenario.

    One lives in hope!

    Lyricist II
    January 22, 2020

    Don’t follow the herd! For one last time, there is a very simple and cheap way around thus issue! Just think about how the system works, think slightly old school and voila! Your in, fixed, no drama! 
     

    “Oh my remote key fob doesn’t work” this £50k 4x4 is crap, burn it, I’ll never buy another BMW again”

    So you have forgotten how to use a key?..

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Pretty unhappy with this news!

    I thought I was lucky to have the following set-up in my home:

    7 Connect Amps (connected to ceiling speakers)
    3 Connect (connect to AV Receivers)
    1 Play 5 (Gen 1) (Mobile)
    4 Bridges
    3 Play 3 (mobile)
    3 Play 1 (mobile)
    2 Subs 
    1 Boost

    Over the years, this has cost me a fortune, and has been brilliant and usable… until now!

    The recent news that I have to buy new amps, new connects, a new play 5 and new bridges is alarming! I could do this and then in a couple of months the same could happen to my Play 3’s and Play 1’s. This could then be perpetual!!!

    Sonos should manage this and release multiple versions of updates. If ‘services’ don’t want to do the same then they will risk losing subscribers!

    I have always loved and supported Sonos, but I’m not being part of this. I would prefer to buy ‘dum’ amps and play whatever I pay for through them.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    What a joke!

     

    As everybody else commented, how can Sonos dare proposing this 30% trade up scheme, when their products won’t work properly anymore because of “updates”.

    Having 3 speakers, connect & bridge, more than half of them becoming obsolete, I feel completely robbed. At the same time, the “port” replacing the Connect is 100£ more expensive, for what reason (same functionalities, same plugs)??? 30% off this new connect will bring me to the price I paid for the old one. Wow, that’s impressive programmed obsolescence and that should not be allowed. 

    Shame on you Sonos, I made few of my friends invest in your brand, not anymore. 600-700£ to update a system working and bought 5 years ago, it’s really eco-friendly as well…

    Is there any way to have a class action or something? So disappointed by one of my (former) favourite brands.